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Homeowners Associations: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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  • 게시일 2023. 04. 08.
  • John Oliver discusses homeowners associations, the surprising power they have, and how to tell if a tree is “tree-shaped.”
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  • John Shirley
    John Shirley 5 개월 전 +13853

    As a law student, one of my lifelong goals is to dismantle as many HOA's as I possibly can.

    • Evanjuleen
      Evanjuleen 5 개월 전 +1031

      God speed soldier 🙌

    • JohnDoe
      JohnDoe 5 개월 전 +159

      Please leave condos alone or you’re gonna be responsible for a lot of collapsed buildings…

    • PoohsSmartBrother
      PoohsSmartBrother 5 개월 전 +364

      Not all heros wear capes

    • Robin B
      Robin B 5 개월 전 +213

      I wish you the speed of every God

  • Some Guy
    Some Guy 4 개월 전 +2453

    I remember reading a story a few years ago where a guy had a house out in the country. Soon a developer came in and built a HOA community around his house. His house was legally excluded from the HOA as it was not part of the development, but still in the neighborhood. On the back of his house, he had a huge deck. The HOA started harassing him about the deck saying it did not meet the rules and needed to be removed. He kept telling the them his house was not part of the HOA. Then one day he came home and his deck was gone. The HOA sent in contractors to remove it. He sued them and won. The court made the HOA rebuild his huge deck. That ended up bankrupting the HOA. Man, I wish I could buy that guy a beer!

    • HOA Exposed
      HOA Exposed 4 개월 전 +155

      Love it! Great ending. Now if only all HOA’s would go bankrupt!

    • Rémy Blain
      Rémy Blain 4 개월 전 +248

      That’s some big deck energy right there

    • Kyle Wall
      Kyle Wall 4 개월 전 +42

      ​@Rémy Blain Nailed It

    • Kelbelle
      Kelbelle 3 개월 전 +48

      HOAs are so villainous that we are routing for this guy! 😂

    • Stel _
      Stel _ 3 개월 전 +22

      I'm so glad that had a happy ending for this guy and his deck

  • B izichyld
    B izichyld 5 개월 전 +1493

    As a 31 year old aspiring homeowner, I’m appalled at the dark side of Chuck E Cheese your investigative team uncovered.

    • cameronwulff
      cameronwulff 4 개월 전 +61

      It was one of the best segments they have ever done

    • ZT1ST
      ZT1ST 4 개월 전 +50

      I'm kind of surprised how the Chuck E. Cheese episode seems to have taken a Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedov level twist; "We thought this segment was going to be much shorter, but then..."

    • EcceJack
      EcceJack 4 개월 전 +4

      It was fascinating, yes!

    • Seagalfan
      Seagalfan 3 개월 전 +1


    • B izichyld
      B izichyld 3 개월 전 +6

      Now that I actually watched the Chuck E Cheese story, I stand by my original comment. That was actually more entertaining that the HOA story.

  • Gillian Bird
    Gillian Bird 4 개월 전 +1226

    As a Canadian home owner, it's shocking to hear that things like "trash collection" and paving roads aren't covered by local government taxes! Aren't these homeowners paying taxes for these services?? The states is such a broken place, it honestly shocks me!

    • Me Here
      Me Here 4 개월 전 +157

      the lack of freedom is what shocks me most! I rent in Australia, but my front garden is a great big vegetable patch - and we're alleged to be really bad on renter rights here! Just disgusting to not have control over a person's own home! Stuff like pools & other dangerous stuff is reasonable to require approval to build (from appropriate authorities who decide the outcome based on safety, not a whim), but just insane they can control the colour of shutters or what trees are allowed in a garden they don't own!

    • Ksenia H
      Ksenia H 4 개월 전 +39

      @Me Here I do know certain places in Canada have rules for homeowners.. Some condos require you to have certain curtains and such since they're visible from the street, not have certain items on your balconies, etc.. I don't know if we have anything to this level (maybe gated communities) though

    • MissIncorrigibleOfOz
      MissIncorrigibleOfOz 4 개월 전 +13

      Also renting here in Australia @Me Here but in an apartment block. I have been told I'm not allowed to feed the cockatoos because they hang around and get destructive and we aren't allowed to have washing drying on the balcony but other than that, they have little impact on me.
      I can't imagine that HOAs provide a hard rubbish collection.

    • Me Here
      Me Here 4 개월 전 +6

      @Ksenia H no junk on balconies here is pretty normal too, although it's been modified by government regulations to be nothing visible from the street, which in many cases leads to people enclosing the bottom part with nice looking stuff & hiding junk behind that, one of my neighbours for example has what looks like a gorgous hedge from ground level, but is actually just a piece of fake grass hanging over the railing. I think the landlord, or body corperate if it's an owner, do have the authority to stop it, but they tend not to & things have been made difficult for them in stopping stuff, by legislation that was introduced to combat inappropriate demands by owners & body corperates.
      I think there's a balance that's needed, yes landlords/bodycorperates/HOA or whatever should have the option of maintaining property values, but this still has to be balanced with people's freedom to control their own living spaces! Controlling what's visible from the street is very different to going onto goggle maps to see what's in someone's backyard & fining them for that!

    • Me Here
      Me Here 4 개월 전 +1

      @MissIncorrigibleOfOz Try my neighbour's trick if you want washing on your balcony :) A piece of fake grass from bunnings, hung either in front of, or behind the railing seriously looks great - and hides the washing behind it :)).
      I think the washing thing is pretty common, cause they don't want units to look like traditional images of slums in other countries. I think there is actually something in the rules where they have to provide alternative clothes drying options to be able to enforce it, but I personally see their point on this one & think it's better just to avoid it or hide it if needed.
      The cockies is a challenging one. I've recently had to stop feeding my familly, but I chose to do that myself, because there was a screamer that moved into the area & it was beyond a joke, dawn every morning, absolute screeching, so I didnt' want to upset my neighbours & knew it would if I didn't stop the feeding, at least for a little while until that stopped, even though it wasn't actually any of my family that were doing it. I miss my cockies! Really hoping I can return to feeding them soon & noise is reducing, so I hope I can. That must be really horrible for you to have been told you are not allowed to feed them! I know how much mine mean to me & yes, they CAN be destructive, but they can be managed too, feeding them doesn't mean they're hanging around being destructive! I really feel for you! pets, including wild ones, make such a difference to mental health don't they! That's really sad they're taking away your ablity to have that connection to nature!!!!!! I hate that!
      & yeh lol I can't imagine a hard rubbish collection under the circumstances described in the video! Let alone the chance to collect from the hard rubbish! I live next door to 130 units, in a council that offers 1 free on demand hard rubbish collection per year, in addition to a few scheduled general ones. Body corperate in that unit block's attitude was "if council wants to fine us, I'll just start ringing every week & giving a different unit number & booking a once a year free collection". So we've ended up with council just agreeing to schedual it on a set day & rubbish out only 1 day before it (not that people comply with that) & the area next to the bins becoming a weekly hard rubbish collection point, which is pretty cool for foraging :) My most recent was about 20 old records to use for my pouring art. Rather cheaper than the $3 each plywood circles or similar priced canvases! Got a few old mirrors for my garden to make it look bigger & increase reflected light for better growth too, love the hard rubbish at the best of times, but a permenent one 50 metres from my door is awesome :) (especially when it's out of sight & smell from my home)

  • Chris eearls
    Chris eearls 개월 전 +1154

    In the USA, individuals living in cars due to partial homelessness result from a complex interplay of factors. High housing costs relative to income, stagnant wages, and income inequality drive this issue. Job loss, weak social support, medical expenses, evictions, and lack of affordable housing also contribute, while systemic problems and inadequate policies further perpetuate the phenomenon.

    • weatherman
      weatherman 개월 전 +3

      Considering the present situation, diversifying by shifting investments from real estate to financial markets or gold is recommended, despite potential future home price drops. Given prevailing mortgage rates and economic uncertainty, this move is prudent, particularly due to stricter mortgage regulations. Seeking advice from a knowledgeable independent financial advisor is advisable for those seeking guidance.

    • Tommy
      Tommy 개월 전 +2

      I've remained in touch with a financial analyst since the start of my business. Amid today's dynamic market, the key difficulty is pinpointing the right time to buy or sell when dealing with trending stocks - a seemingly simple task but challenging in reality. My portfolio has grown by more than $600k within just a year, and I've entrusted my advisor with the task of determining entry and exit points.

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      Believer 개월 전 +2

      Could you guide me on how to get in touch with your advisor? My funds are being eroded by inflation, and I'm seeking a more lucrative investment strategy to effectively utilize them.

    • Tommy
      Tommy 개월 전 +2

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    • Faith Walter
      Faith Walter 개월 전 +2

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  • OG Krimson
    OG Krimson 3 개월 전 +317

    What confuses the hell out of me is that the people who are so damn adamant about not being told what to do by a government aren't doing a damn thing about this.

    • Markus Brauns
      Markus Brauns 3 개월 전 +9

      Roe v Wade is so much more important, but I get where you are coming from. It's insane to me too.

    • J G
      J G 2 개월 전

      It costs money. I can’t afford it!

    • Chris Clark
      Chris Clark 2 개월 전

      @Markus BraunsI get that’s important and it’s horrible it’s been repealed. This is more crazy it’s easy to have another kid. It’s not so easy to buy a new home.

  • KeegoTheWise
    KeegoTheWise 5 개월 전 +7508

    i’m an incredibly non-violent person, but if an HOA secretly bought my house a year before evicting me for less than a Happy Meal i’d be catching multiple life sentences

    • RadioDragon
      RadioDragon 5 개월 전 +758

      The one time in history jury nullification becomes relevant. No reasonable jury would convict you.

    • Spammus
      Spammus 5 개월 전 +347

      ​@RadioDragon You underestimate the jury.

    • Trentacus
      Trentacus 5 개월 전 +43

      Concurrent or consecutive sentences?

    • mike mann
      mike mann 5 개월 전 +175

      The worst part of Capitalism.

    • Alley A.
      Alley A. 5 개월 전 +78

      @mike mann I mean, the conditions of workers in global south countries is pretty not great. There are just a lot of worst parts lmao

  • mo in a kitchen
    mo in a kitchen 3 개월 전 +177

    all i've learned from years of watching this show is that America has a million ways to stumble into extreme debt but only like two ways to get rich

    • IPFreeley
      IPFreeley 2 개월 전 +19

      The way to get rich is to figure out ways to put ppl into debt🤷🏻‍♂️

    • Anna Lieff-Saxby
      Anna Lieff-Saxby 개월 전 +20

      1. Be born rich.
      2. Steal, legally if possible.

      HÄXANÄX 개월 전 +3

      There’s a reason so many here go postal and it’s not gun proliferatiion. If it were, Switzerland would have as many incidents per capita. There’s a level of hypervigilance & daily stress in USA you won’t find in other developed countries.

    • Paul Dickinson
      Paul Dickinson 9 일 전 +1

      @HÄXANÄX The main reason Switzerland has safe gun proliferation is because they have mandatory military service. Anyone who has a gun received and adequate amount of training and anyone who couldn't complete that training doesn't own a gun. In essence, they use their military to enact adequate gun control.

  • Candy Johnson
    Candy Johnson 5 개월 전 +682

    I fought my HOA and won. You have to understand how to play the game. A shared drain flooded my 1st floor condo. Because the drain was used by more than one unit it was considered community property and therefore the responsibility of the HOA. After 3 months of refusing to pay up, I called my local city inspectors office and asked for a code inspection of the building I was living in. I advised I had safety concerns, etc. A week later, the inspector came and He found 10 violations for my building alone. So he promptly called the HOA office to discuss the “violations”. Well needless to say, the HOA was extremely upset with my “tactics”. I advised that I would continue with my “tactics” until my condo was repaired. They finally agreed to cover the cost of the repair. The city also required them to repair the code violations or face fines. Haha 😂 I sold and moved out within a year. Just not worth the hassle living in a HOA community.

    • JeepLiving
      JeepLiving 4 개월 전 +33

      LOVE how you turned their own tactics against them. Bravo!

    • michele b
      michele b 4 개월 전 +8


    • Edriss Scofield
      Edriss Scofield 4 개월 전 +5

      That's what's up!!

    • Harry Siddall
      Harry Siddall 3 개월 전 +41

      >you have to understand how to play the game
      There shouldn't be a game to play is the point.

  • Gaamesso
    Gaamesso 5 개월 전 +402

    As a person born after 1988, after watching the whole episode, I am totally fine with not owning a home.

    • Cebbi
      Cebbi 3 개월 전 +42

      Man, you are not ready to hear about landlords

    • Samhhain Cat
      Samhhain Cat 3 개월 전 +16

      I was born in 77 and also won't ever be owning a home. Thanks, boomers.

    • StripedPants 1
      StripedPants 1 3 개월 전 +1

      Yeah I agree with the guy commenting about the landlord. When you own a home, you won’t have to deal with those guys raising the rent on you.

    • SunflowerSquish
      SunflowerSquish 2 개월 전 +4

      ​@Samhhain Cat I got lucky. I'm a '92 baby and I bought my home in 2019. No HOA and my mortgage is less than $700/month. I'd go to jail for murder if I had a HOA. 🙃

  • Arno Broekhoven
    Arno Broekhoven 5 개월 전 +201

    My house here in AZ falls under a HOA. I get fined all the time for little weeds that you can barely see with a microscope. One time I got fined when removing those little weeds, putting them in my trashbin and left the bin in the frontyard during the day. How ridiculous is that! These HOA should be outlawed. I hate them!

    • HOA Exposed
      HOA Exposed 4 개월 전 +5

      I despise them as well.

    • PaulN07
      PaulN07 3 개월 전 +2

      May i introducr you to malicious compliance. How about a wee but of hostile takover.

    • Early Bird Craft
      Early Bird Craft 2 개월 전


    • NC Mariofan3
      NC Mariofan3 개월 전

      Do you get fined for breathing the wrong way?

  • Harry Siddall
    Harry Siddall 3 개월 전 +178

    Bizarre to me as a foreigner that, for a country that values freedom as one of its core values, America has things like this. Functionally, Americans are some of the least free of the first world. Never have i heard of a private organisation issuing fines for trees "not being tree shaped" anywhere else in the world.

    • Early Bird Craft
      Early Bird Craft 2 개월 전 +11

      As an American I can tell you that most Americans love being told what to do. Hence the cult type of businesses thrive in America. From churches to MLM pyramid scheme

    • M Meyer
      M Meyer 7 일 전 +1

      As an American I agree. We arnt free. But man, the uneducated people in this country really think we are

  • laalaa99stl
    laalaa99stl 5 개월 전 +13371

    The fact that HOAs can perfectly, legally bypass even SCOTUS rulings on desegregation is some truly dystopian BS.

    • Dissonance Paradiddle
      Dissonance Paradiddle 5 개월 전 +109

      The fuck? !

    • xiaoka
      xiaoka 5 개월 전 +102

      They didn’t, they tried.

    • Jil' Korath
      Jil' Korath 5 개월 전 +182

      With this SCOTUS i prefer most ignore their rulings.

    • Captian Fail
      Captian Fail 5 개월 전 +65

      Just a normal thing for the US.

    • Peter Gerdes
      Peter Gerdes 5 개월 전 +151

      But that's just not true. In Shelly v. Krammer SCOTUS specifically held that racially restrictive covenants can't be enforced and federal law prevents HOAs from being overtly discriminatory.
      Is it true that HOAs can implicitly discriminate? Yes, ofc but that's no different than city government or anywhere else. Bad but nothing special.

  • RMCJr
    RMCJr 5 개월 전 +246

    I lived in an HOA community for less than a year. In that time I was fined for not having a parking pass for a (non-running and unregistered) project car that never left my private garage. I don't know how they knew it was in there, and they refused to tell me. My best guess is that they climbed up my stairs high enough to look through the little windows at the top of the garage door on some day when I left the lights on in the garage. Never again. I'll live in my truck before I live in another HOA community.

    • Ernest Bennett
      Ernest Bennett 4 개월 전 +19

      A lot of HOAs have nosy neighbors who spy on other neighbors

    • Jaws Trock
      Jaws Trock 3 개월 전 +14

      some real 1940 Germany shit right there.

  • Kelly B
    Kelly B 5 개월 전 +101

    I love the jokes in this and hate how accurate it is. HOAs are a damn nightmare. They literally have people who walk around the neighborhood looking for "violations" such as weeds growing through the cracks in the driveway, hedges that aren't trimmed enough, or the sidewalk being dirty. Yes, you're responsible for keeping the sidewalk cleaned in front of your home even though you don't own it.

    • Erwin A
      Erwin A 5 개월 전 +4

      My HOA booted my neighbors sons car because he parked it behind the driveway which was blocking the neighbors car from getting out. My HOA doesnt even provide guest parking and instead they boot ur car which actually ended up blocking their driveway for real lol. He was only visiting for a few hours too. Such bs.

  • Beau Gantz
    Beau Gantz 5 개월 전 +115

    I got my girlfriend that banana duck a year ago and seeing our boy on HBO was a big moment

  • AW
    AW 4 개월 전 +182

    I got into it with my HOA in a multiple building condo community because my unit flooded multiple times. Their property manager tried to get their attorney on the line to tell me what was my responsibility in my home, which wasn't what was in the contracts anywhere, and when he said I didn't have a law degree like him I simply said "but I do know what a 1 party consent state is to record conversations, and you and your client have now tried to defraud me of thousands of dollars now making this a felony." That lawyer flipped on the waterworks faster than I could have hung up, "don't turn me in, I have strikes against me already with the state BAR association..." well I turned him in and he lost his license and I turned in the property manager who in my state is required to have a real estate license and they also took his license away do to repeated violations.
    I did not realize it was a nepotism case and that the property management company's owners were our property managers parents, and they proceeded to try to fine me for everything they could think of. They kept sending me pictures from other people's units and even a couple with time stamps from before I bought the property, so I threatened legal action about them and installed some hidden cameras outside of my unit and then proceeded to watch them on camera destroy/deface some of my property. They were a little shocked when I sued them for the damages, and got their real estate licenses taken away too meaning they couldn't operate their company anymore. They lost everything for their son, and the best part is the HOA and all of the neighbors now know not to mess with me at all or they'll end up with their careers in jeopardy too.

    • Nope
      Nope 3 개월 전 +12

      I’m tumescent

    • Mediokay
      Mediokay 3 개월 전 +16

      God that gave me a rush to read.

    • Samuel Lourenço
      Samuel Lourenço 3 개월 전 +1

      I would let him do the work, only to turn him in.

    • Squitdoogenz
      Squitdoogenz 2 개월 전


    • Wyatt Miller
      Wyatt Miller 2 개월 전 +5

      imma be honest dawg I don't think that happened

  • uploadstuff
    uploadstuff 2 개월 전 +10

    Laws limiting HOA power and authority need to be enacted.

  • SouleaterX
    SouleaterX 5 개월 전 +3941

    As someone who is indeed under 35, I can confirm the chuck e cheese site does not disappoint. This right here is why I enjoy this show

    • David Kidd
      David Kidd 5 개월 전 +117

      It was awesome

    • silver megaman
      silver megaman 5 개월 전 +73

      ​@David Kidd my entire thought was what did I just watch

    • GeneralDragon011
      GeneralDragon011 5 개월 전 +169

      Came back from Last Squeak Tonight. Yes, it's actually as long as he said it was. Man, Chuck E. Cheese's history is fasinating!

    • dr34dbolt
      dr34dbolt 5 개월 전 +53

      I snuck a peek even though I'm just past 40, and you are indeed correct 👍

    • Dust Bunny
      Dust Bunny 5 개월 전 +78


  • Dustin Haning
    Dustin Haning 5 개월 전 +69

    When I bought my house I purposely avoided HOAs at all costs. With the budget I had, it significantly reduced the options I had, but I'm so glad I did.

    • Jon Jenkins
      Jon Jenkins 3 개월 전 +1

      Right? You have to pay like a 15-20% premium if you want the same house sans HOA.

    • Early Bird Craft
      Early Bird Craft 2 개월 전


    • That_Aunt /celeste
      That_Aunt /celeste 개월 전

      Individual solution is to buy a house in an older neighborhood. Collective solutions may need state level regulation, or just a really good grassroots campaign to elect "Not Minding Your Business" directors to HOA boards that hold elections.

  • Steve Rogers
    Steve Rogers 5 개월 전 +59

    I met a HOA board member who acts like Todd McCoy when asked simple inguiring questions, and yea, she deserves every bad thing you can think of.
    -Actively turning down minorities looking to own a home
    -Openly hating minorities/LGBTQ
    -Fines because you chose a wrong color (where's the freedom)
    -Fines because you chose to drink a beer on your lawn (where's the freedom)
    -Fines because you chose to work on your car in your driveway (wheres' the freedom)
    -Not having a job and just being a nosy busy-body all up in your freedom.
    -Eventually foreclosing on a neighbors home because the neighbor wanted to discuss things and work things out.
    Again, she deserves what your creative mind can imagine.

    • Toreador Studios
      Toreador Studios 개월 전 +3

      Aa a british person, make her use an east london public restroom

  • Jan Moucha
    Jan Moucha 4 개월 전 +82

    Yet another episode of Last Week Tonight that makes me ever so grateful to not be born and/or not live in USA.

    • Markus Brauns
      Markus Brauns 3 개월 전 +2

      I hear that. Me too.

    • Mary Hedengren
      Mary Hedengren 2 개월 전 +1

      @Markus Brauns It's kind of the brand, though. It's never going to be, "Hey, tonight's show: America's got the finest higher education in the world, the highest rate of charitable donations, and widespread free drinking water!" I mean, even John Oliver chose citizenship in the US. But one thing Americans love is trashing on ourselves.

    • Jean Bonnefoy
      Jean Bonnefoy 2 개월 전 +7

      ​@Mary Hedengren: finest higher education in the world". I hope you're joking but I wouldn't bet on it.

    • David
      David 개월 전

      The purpose of the show is to focus on problems facing the country that many in the US aren't aware of because they aren't affected by it. Foreigners should focus on their own problems, like crumbling welfare states and population crises.

    • David
      David 개월 전 +1

      @Jean Bonnefoy Most of the top universities are in the US. Hope you're not actually that ignorant but I wouldn't bet on it.

  • Segev Stormlord
    Segev Stormlord 5 개월 전 +79

    I'm pretty sure that the "nope, you have to sign before you can read the rules" ones are ripe for law suits. "Unconscionable contracts" are still a thing.

  • Tommy Wo
    Tommy Wo 4 개월 전 +44

    The irony about "Ted" and the park bench in his front yard is that he was a long-time board member for the community in which he lives. All the years that he served on the board of directors, he helped enforce that exact same rule. Ted is fully aware that the bench wasn't allowed but willfully chose to ignore the rule when he decided that he wanted one himself.

    • SiSi
      SiSi 4 개월 전 +24

      Well I felt bad for Ted, but now I'm feeling a lot less bad for him. You can't pick and choose which rules you want to follow just because you USED to hold a position of power in the commmunity. Ted knows better than that.

    • Michael Steffens
      Michael Steffens 개월 전 +6

      Citation, please.

    • To The Lighthouse
      To The Lighthouse 3 일 전

      @Michael Steffens Or my god you could just look it up yourself🥴😒
      "Ted says while he was on the Bethany Villa Association board for 28 years, the HOA did not give him a reason for removal."
      Do a search for "Neighbors rally for senior who just wants somewhere to sit" & read the ABC15 article from 2 yrs ago.

  • Spinoza the Obvious
    Spinoza the Obvious 5 개월 전 +15737

    Seeing this from the Netherlands, where HOAs only exist for apartments, and have nowhere near these powers, it's obvious that 'freedom' in the US is primarily for corporations, not individuals.

    • MachaMongRuad
      MachaMongRuad 5 개월 전 +1121

      Your assessment is so accurate that it hurts. 😣

    • Isdezenaambezet
      Isdezenaambezet 5 개월 전 +118

      Can't say I ever attended a VVE meeting in my old building.

    • Spinoza the Obvious
      Spinoza the Obvious 5 개월 전 +324

      Just a random example of a difference: a seller is required to give the buyer financial statements and meeting minutes of the HOA. The idea that there would be no transparency of what you'd be getting into with an HOA is astonishing.

  • larry71000
    larry71000 5 개월 전 +18

    My dad was on the board of the HOA for his townhouse complex. They were very unobtrusive and just took care of the maintenance of the buildings and landscaping. They didn't care about what people did in their back yards or if their cars were parked in their driveways. Over the course of a year or two, my dad any all the other board members left. The new group that came in wanted to hire a management company. To pay for it, they needed more revenue. They started fining people for things that had never been enforced. When people started complaining, the new board sued my dad and the other board members who had never enforced the petty rules. The ironic part was that, as ex-board members, the HOA had to provide legal counsel for everyone they were suing. They were basically suing themselves. If they won, the HOA would also be responsible for paying the $1 million dollars they were suing each ex-board member for. It was insane. As the legal fees mounted, and the reserves were depleted, the board tried to bill the homeowners for them. Eventually, all of the new members were voted out, the lawsuit was dropped, and things went back to how they were.

    • Vmal Tnuio
      Vmal Tnuio 5 개월 전

      We have a similar arrangement in 🇿🇦 where I am a trustee. We are not this evil though

  • senta ukrai
    senta ukrai 4 개월 전 +30

    Violence may not be an appropriate response but damn I could certainly empathize with anyone who chose to do so against their HOA.

    • Toreador Studios
      Toreador Studios 개월 전

      As i british person, i would reccomend forcing HOA owners to use east london public restrooms.
      It changes a man.

  • Sam Krysiak
    Sam Krysiak 4 개월 전 +43

    I'm thrilled that Last Week Tonight is becoming a showcase of former SNL cast members playing unhinged characters, especially so with Rachel Dratch and now Chris Parnell. We'll probably have to wait another 10 years for Kate McKinnon and Cecily Strong to be cast, but I'm absolutely here for it✨

    • Markus Brauns
      Markus Brauns 3 개월 전 +3

      Don't forget Nicole Sullivan from MadTV, she was the blonde in the pink track suit. Kate McKinnon is my all time favorite SNL cast member. Soo much talent...

    • Markus Brauns
      Markus Brauns 3 개월 전 +2

      Don't forget Nicole Sullivan from MadTV, she was the blonde in the pink track suit. Kate McKinnon is my all time favorite SNL cast member. Soo much talent...

    • MelBell 0865
      MelBell 0865 24 일 전

      It’s probably a better working environment than SNL anyway.

  • Makem
    Makem 4 개월 전 +25

    A family member of mine had a hired landscaper mow their lawn and they missed a week due to family circumstances. The HOA literally measured the grass with a ruler and sent a passive aggressive letter telling them to cut it. It was half inch over the limit.

  • Douglas
    Douglas 22 일 전 +4

    In Utah. An HOA in daybreak kept charging my brother fines for having dog poop in his front yard. He doesn't own a dog. It's also part of the HOA to pick up after your dog. $74 per day. He went on vacation once and got charged $1400 for poop in his yard that wasn't from his dog while in vacation

  • David F.
    David F. 5 개월 전 +1448

    As a European I'm shocked this exists. This is genuinely one of my worst nightmares.

    • Dieter Peeters
      Dieter Peeters 5 개월 전 +143

      indeed .... capitalistic dictatorship

    • Bobby3OOO
      Bobby3OOO 5 개월 전 +11

      @Dieter Peeters Or, you know, freedom to contract at private law

    • Lorenzo6880
      Lorenzo6880 5 개월 전 +54

      HOA's exist in Europe. There are communities and neighborhoods with HOA enforcing the selection of contractors for maintenance work, enforce garden or balcony standards in condos. Their power are somewhat limited compared to what we see in the video, but it is not an American reality. They also exist in South America, like Argentina or Brasil.

    • bjkarana
      bjkarana 5 개월 전 +27

      It's well known in the US and can be avoided if you really don't want to live in one. My wife and I refused to buy a home in an HOA community for the exact reasons in this video.

  • Ruth Cassidy
    Ruth Cassidy 5 개월 전 +52

    I used to take minutes (as a professional recording secretary) for several HOAs. The horror stories I could share!! One owner couldn't park his own pickup truck in the parking area because it was classified as a "work vehicle" and therefore prohibited. The fights about house colors! - all homes had to be 'earth tones', but that kind of went out the window when a new golf resort hotel was painted Pepto-Bismol Pink. Constant assessments for new roofs, parking lot paving and striping, and any other 'improvement' project that struck the board's fancy. Fines you had to deal with (read: pay) before you were allowed to sell your own home. People get on these boards and become little dictators, drunk on power. Never buy in an HOA!!!

  • Someone2389
    Someone2389 3 개월 전 +10

    Australian here, US HOA's are insane. Organisations like this shouldn't be allowed to have this much power.

  • Terry Hayward
    Terry Hayward 3 개월 전 +14

    It really must be great to live in such a free country.

  • Amit
    Amit 5 개월 전 +24

    For a country that talkes so much about freedom, it looks like nobody has it other than some rich companies.

  • The Old Wolf
    The Old Wolf 개월 전 +2

    Looking for homes in the Salt Lake City area, I came across a single wide mobile home in a very nice subdivision which was selling for $160,000, but the monthly HOA fee was almost $1,000. That's totally insane.

  • Thom and Staci Everroad
    Thom and Staci Everroad 5 개월 전 +1876

    My grandfather lived in a neighborhood with an HOA. After a lengthy battle over a flagpole that was 1 ft too tall he went around to each of the board members houses at night and burned their lawns with fertilizer. He then reported them to their own boary that they weren't following HOA rules to keep grass at acceptable length. They didn't have any grass at all as the fertilizer burned it to death 😂
    Gramps was a legend.

    • Skullair313
      Skullair313 5 개월 전 +83

      Don't post this unless the statute of limitation has passed, some guy may want to come after you

    • pixelk
      pixelk 5 개월 전 +92

      Holy shit thats iconic. Did he get away with it?? If so, thats actually a good tactic. If the hoa doesnt bar people from fucking up your property and fining you for small infractions, then people could use the same lack of regulation against the hoa.

    • accurate alloys
      accurate alloys 5 개월 전 +80

      Freezing Round up in an ice tray, then toss the cubes into the yard at night. Ring cameras can’t catch that.

    • Thom and Staci Everroad
      Thom and Staci Everroad 5 개월 전 +154

      @Skullair313 they'd have to go after my grandfather and he's been dead for years

  • ChaosFromTejas
    ChaosFromTejas 5 개월 전 +52

    I'm so happy that the 7 years I lived in an HOA in Austin, Texas, they were just down to earth people. Most annoying things we got were being told our trash can couldn't be at the curb 24 hours after trash was picked up, no big deal. But they let us have lawn decorations, a shed (as long as the color was relatively close to the house color and we submitted some building sketches and measurements), built a deck and a firepit in my backyard no problem, and community issues were handled immediately. I called about a nasty pothole on my way to work once, and it was fixed before I got home for lunch. They did require *front* lawns/drives to be maintained, but it was never overly enforced. They even put on community gatherings like block parties and 4th of July celebrations, and had very open HOA meetings where we could ask any questions and they actually listened to residents, and made changes that the majority agreed with.
    This all being said, I still don't trust HOAs and recognize that I was indeed one of the few lucky ones to just have some decent people in charge of it. I do wonder how bad it could've been if I had missed a single payment or if their had been a change of management.

    • HowToMakeAlmostAnything
      HowToMakeAlmostAnything 2 개월 전 +1

      Being happy that they allowed you to do things feels like being happy with a prison guard who is nice to you. The deeper issue is that you you are in prison and that that someone is watching over you and is contorlling your life. Whether they are good or not is far less relevant. It just boggles my mind how american always need to have someone or something contorlling their lives and are perfectly fine with it.

    • ChaosFromTejas
      ChaosFromTejas 2 개월 전

      @HowToMakeAlmostAnything If requiring me to keep my lawn mowed and garbage cans off the street is prison, then you and I have two very different views on prison life.
      In return, they maintain the streets and grassways, and keep neighborhoods clean and well kept, which in turn raises the value of my home. You’re thinking waaaay too far into some weird idea that living in an HOA is submitting to some kind of overlord. It’s really not that serious

    • HowToMakeAlmostAnything
      HowToMakeAlmostAnything 2 개월 전 +1

      @ChaosFromTejas Say you need to be absent for 6 months, say you want to not have a lawn, say you find a cookie cutter neighborhood boring and want to have more diversity in infrastructure and style like in Japan or EU. What then?
      Shouldn't maintenance of public things like streets, playgrounds, and a third place - be done by the you know public government. Are you familiar with the Not just bikes channel?

  • BloodyNeptune
    BloodyNeptune 3 개월 전 +10

    I've had way too many bad neighbors to put myself in a situation where the bad neighbors have control over my lawn

    PRSAUCEBOY 5 개월 전 +8

    That was my number one rule when i bought my house, NO HOA. I'm so happy and my neighbors are so cool. Everyone does whatever they want and there is no issues with anyone, and this is a multi racial neighborhood. Besides, who wants a home that looks like all the other houses on the block? HOA is where karens thrive.

  • Irene Nachreiner
    Irene Nachreiner 2 개월 전 +4

    My husband and I bought a condo when we first got married. The HOA was such a nightmare we sold the place and moved to a house with NO HOA! We will never live under an HOA ever again! This piece is so true and so sad and horrifying at the same time.

  • María Rozo Osuna
    María Rozo Osuna 5 개월 전 +1247

    My mom’s HOA ended up charging us over $2000 after we missed one yearly payment of $100 on a condo that had burnt down, the month after she died. They hired attorneys to send a demand letter for us to pay. $100 fee, $1900+ in attorney’s fees, on a nonexistent condo because of the fire. Still wish the absolute worst for all those involved in kicking us when we were down.

    • IR gEEK
      IR gEEK 5 개월 전 +107

      Very similar to what happened to us. The property was still intact, but my wife became very sick and I just overlooked the silly annual fee because we were a bit distracted and missed the payment FOR THE FIRST TIME in 20+ years!~ Terrified my Kids by sending out law enforcement to serve me and after lawyers fees was $1,100+ a bunch of aggravation.

    • Beard Zgorski
      Beard Zgorski 5 개월 전 +53

      May they burn in hell!!!

    • Lil'ducko
      Lil'ducko 5 개월 전 +14

      Why is ur mom's HOA asking money from you?

  • CPT_Bill
    CPT_Bill 5 개월 전 +22

    I rent a condo in an HOA. After my wife left they decided I could no longer live with anyone who wasn't immediate family, and rejected my girlfriend's application. Even though they had no problem with me having a roommate in previous years, they just decided one day to discriminate against unmarried couples with children. This seems completely legal where I live in FL. I am now forced to live alone or get married before living with someone.

    • New Byte
      New Byte 4 개월 전 +3

      Dayum. This is just sad.

    • Andrew H.
      Andrew H. 3 개월 전 +3

      Holy sh!t. That's beyond crazy...
      [Edit:] This really got under my skin. Who do they think they are to decide who you let live with you?! Grrr.
      My heart goes out to you, brother.

    • Tolu Abisola
      Tolu Abisola 2 개월 전 +3

      Wow, land of the free indeed.

  • Heather Duke
    Heather Duke 5 개월 전 +3

    I would never buy a house in an HOA. I don’t even consider that you own your home if you buy into one of those things. It’s insane to me that Americans willingly join them. I guess the only thing we love more than freedom is policing our neighbors 🙄

  • TerminusOmega13
    TerminusOmega13 개월 전 +2

    I was born in 1988, only able to buy my home because of an inheritance. Literally said while I was house hunting that I would not buy ANY home in an HOA. Bought a house built in 1922 and no HOA in sight. Loathed the idea of ever owning a home in one, because I don't want a bunch of busybodies who are not paying one red cent of my mortgage to tell me what I can and cannot do with my own home.

  • But a mere mortal
    But a mere mortal 5 개월 전 +34

    😂 we went to war with our HOA 😂 my ex actually was arrested. He Refused to pay them a dime and still hasn't (I can't imagine) it became a battle of wills. The lady didn't have another job. Her job was to ride around and be a Karen. It got ugly. She would use rulers and some more. Come anytime of the day and night and stalk around the property 😅
    It was an experience alright

  • sarahakm
    sarahakm 5 개월 전 +3

    When mentioning the "segregation loophole" I thought about an episode of Highway to Heaven (80s show). There's a community HOA. A house is for sale and a black family may buy it. The HOA President wants to get the board together to vote on pooling their money to buy the house themselves. This way they can sell the house to the "right people." Being a fictional show I thought it was bs. Turns out this is a very real thing they can do.

  • Not Just Bikes
    Not Just Bikes 5 개월 전 +242

    Ah, suburbia. The American dream, one HOA-approved tree at a time. ❤

    • Shane Snover
      Shane Snover 5 개월 전 +27

      Part of what I noticed is that a lot of these fines essentially evolve out of the HOA needing to pay for the infrastructure and maintenance that bankrupts car dependent municipal governments as you've mentioned in your Strong Towns series. Turns out when it's not subsidized the bargain isn't so good.

    • Chompy the Beast
      Chompy the Beast 5 개월 전 +10

      They call them 15-minute suburbs
      Because it's quite a feat to stand being there for more than 15 minutes

    • qjtvaddict
      qjtvaddict 5 개월 전 +1

      Aka another episode of China was right

    • Not Just Bikes
      Not Just Bikes 5 개월 전 +27

      ​@Shane Snover yes, you're absolutely right. This is a symptom of suburbs being broke because of the Growth Ponzi Scheme that Strong Towns has been talking about for years. Fundamentally, car-dependent suburbia is not financially sustainable, but they're also not legally allowed to declare bankruptcy, so all they can do is cut back and privatize as many city services as possible.

  • matthewpinn4
    matthewpinn4 3 개월 전 +5

    A tip I've heard someone share before is to threaten HOA with a radio tower, because the us government sanctions radio tower construction under almost all circumstances and so the hoa can't stop you. Threaten them with thag great big eyesore until they relent

  • Dr. Ty Sanchez
    Dr. Ty Sanchez 5 개월 전 +4

    Then there's the problem of HOA developments that get built near or around homes or farms (that were there long before the first HOA house was built) that demand the pre-existing homes join the HOA and conform to their rules.
    When I lived in Montana, a new development went up next to a farm that had been there for over a hundred years. The HOA actually tried to foreclose on the farm, because the owner declined to join. Unfortunately for the HOA, the farmer happened to be related to the county sheriff, the mayor, and the only judge in the local town. Montana doesn't put up with "snowbirds" coming in and dictating rules to the locals.

  • Sarah Dean
    Sarah Dean 2 개월 전 +16

    As a note - you do not HAVE to sign on to an HOA when you move into a home. You CAN opt out regardless of what the members say.

    • KillerTree79
      KillerTree79 2 개월 전 +5

      Nope. Maybe in your area. But not all. Most now are required to opt in as part of purchase.

    • That_Aunt /celeste
      That_Aunt /celeste 개월 전 +3

      This is part of the Deed to the house. It's a restrictive covenant on the land, you cannot opt out if you buy it.

    • Nguyen Thi Phuong Anh
      Nguyen Thi Phuong Anh 19 일 전

      You can’t.

  • hew195050
    hew195050 5 개월 전 +5

    I can testify to the fact that local government does NOT have any power over HOA's. We were denied for years financial disclosure and meetings. Myself and my neighbor had to threaten for over many months to allow it to go public (which wouldn't have changed anything, just embarrassed them) before they reluctantly agreed. After at least 5 years of mishandling the books, we still don't know where all that money went. Hiring a lawyer would have cost thousands and years of litigation. Welcome to America when government does nothing for anyone but themselves and their friends.

  • Mary Hedengren
    Mary Hedengren 2 개월 전 +1

    I'm one of those rare people who dug the last HOA I lived in. I never wanted my own pool--too much maintenance and upkeep--but I got access to one through the HOA. I went to a meeting and asked them to put in a Little Free Library at one of the parks and they were on it right away--and fixed it when someone backed into it. The meeting was interesting, reminded me a lot of local government meetings, with that same mix of eccentrics, cranks and sincere community volunteers. The leadership of the HOA reflected the predominately Latino (and older) neighborhood. We never got a letter, even when we took down some trees and put in a garden. But I understand they were the exception, rather than the rule.
    As a whole, they need a lot more oversight and obviously, people should know what they're getting into and have a say in HOA governance and rules. In many communities, they even have rules that the governing board CAN'T live in the neighborhood. That's crazy--how can you enact rules that you don't even have to live with?

  • James Miller
    James Miller 5 개월 전 +1227

    It quickly escalated from “Ted can’t have a bench” to “Pat was forced to sell her house for $3.24”

    • MamaGarrett
      MamaGarrett 5 개월 전 +90

      Pat did not sell her house they took it for 3.24 after she had already given them all the late fees and the law cant help because there are not laws to hold them accountable

    • MisterB
      MisterB 5 개월 전 +112

      Worse than that. She didn't even know her house had been sold for $3.24 until an entire year afterwards. And that whole time, she was paying thousands in HOA fines for a house she no longer owned.
      They likely didn't even give her the small amount of money they paid for the house, just deducted it from her debt. Literally ripped her off.
      She paid who knows how much to own her home and furnish it, then paid monthly fees to the HOA, then thousands in fines to the HOA, only to lose every cent of investment into her home when the HOA just took it from her for an insultingly low price. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a regular racket they were pulling on new neighbors to basically rob them of all their money and take the property back, only to sell it again to some other victim and repeat the process.

    • Sea_Triscuit
      Sea_Triscuit 5 개월 전 +41

      ​@MisterB if I were her I'd actually go postal

    • Pete Lind
      Pete Lind 5 개월 전 +27

      @MamaGarrett There is 2nd amendment and bet that was open carry state , at that point what more have you to lose ?
      What jury would convict a person who finally snapped at HOA ?

    • Noam Fils
      Noam Fils 5 개월 전 +2

      ​@MisterB 😊ד

  • Justin Kashtock
    Justin Kashtock 5 개월 전 +20

    That skit at the end with Chris Parnell is fantastic, hahaha! Chris Parnell has such a distinctive yet pleasant voice that is instantly recognizable no matter what you watch him starring in as a voiceover artist. He's one of my favorites right along side his Archer costar H. Jon Benjamin and David Wald. I would love to work alongside any one of those amazing voice actors someday.

    • August RempelEwert
      August RempelEwert 5 개월 전 +4

      He CARRIED WordGirl and was perhaps the second-best character on Dogs in Space.

    • MissIncorrigibleOfOz
      MissIncorrigibleOfOz 4 개월 전

      I wasn't watching the screen when he started speaking but I was pretty sure it was him!

    • Jac Lo
      Jac Lo 3 개월 전

      I was listening without watching and thought, hey that's Cyril Figgis.

  • Haunted Horse
    Haunted Horse 3 개월 전 +3

    Had a home in an HOA before this current house we have. That was it! Never again. We found a realtor to look for our current house a little over three years ago. Told her no HOAs and she returned with several homes one with an HOA. She explained she saved it for us because there wasn't an HOA fee there. I told her, the fees were not the issue, it's their stupid bullshit policies. Our current house doesn't have one and it's wonderful!! This story is spot on!

  • Gaelicgirl725
    Gaelicgirl725 5 개월 전 +2

    So basically, HOAs are legalized piracy, preying on the vulnerable, and the aged. What can people do to rein them in? Class action lawsuits maybe?

  • Hooting-ton
    Hooting-ton 개월 전 +1

    You'd think with the idea of 'Private property' you'd be able to do anything you wanted in the privacy of your own home without people barging in and poking their nose in.

  • Molly Rider
    Molly Rider 5 개월 전 +4

    As an Arizonian, the stipulations for our front yard are very similar to the one shared at the start of the video and our Association members are as crazy as that guy on the news. We get fined constantly for things like our tree branches being too close to our house. We literally see them driving around taking pictures of people's houses to send them fines.

  • Rude_i_Wredne
    Rude_i_Wredne 5 개월 전 +1333

    As a millenial, I thank you for this video. It made a perspective of never owning a home MUCH better!

    • Hojo4
      Hojo4 5 개월 전 +110

      Don't worry. The home owner you'll be renting from will pass all the HOA fees onto you and evict you when you don't pay.

    • Fool's Requiem
      Fool's Requiem 5 개월 전 +46

      Most homes still aren't part of HOAs. Most NEW homes are, but there are still a lot of homes that aren't brand new.

    • dylan_the_wizard
      dylan_the_wizard 5 개월 전 +54

      Yep, even as a renter I got fined for putting up the wrong color curtains inside my condo. I'm not the owner so of course I have no idea what the HOA rules are, but they still forwarded me the bill for having navy blue curtains instead of white.

    • CheKappara
      CheKappara 5 개월 전 +30

      ​@dylan_the_wizard holy shit

    • SavageAlbion
      SavageAlbion 5 개월 전 +3

      Don't let that copium make you feel better, go out, work hard, earn that home

  • Monipenny007
    Monipenny007 5 개월 전 +2

    Before I bought my first home, I lived with a friend whos neighborhood had an HOA. I saw the stupid shit they would try to enforce. To the level of telling people what they could and couldn't have **inside** their garage. We even got a letter instructing my husband how to park his classic car in the driveway so the flames that were painted on it were not facing the street. It was well kept classic car that was in daily use! Someone just didn't like it and complained. It was a good learning experience. Since then, every home I've ever purchased since involved ensuring there was no HOA or deed restrictions involved.

  • Kirkwood B Harris
    Kirkwood B Harris 5 개월 전 +2

    Its ironic that HOAs are supposed to preserve property values but typically end up turning off a majority of potential home buyers

  • Jamie_Who?
    Jamie_Who? 5 개월 전 +3

    Every time I think I know all the horrible things that happen in America, there’s always one I haven’t hear of yet. Absolutely insane.

  • Jared Cowing
    Jared Cowing 5 개월 전 +2

    I'd love to see a segment on the related topic of lawns & weed ordinances, and how we often see people as negligent if they use any portion of their land for anything other than a sterile, resource-intensive, chemical-laden and non-native ground cover that we chop to the ground weekly. My impression is that the manicured lawn is a uniquely American obsession, and it's a major factor in the mass extinction of pollinators. Would be a great candidate for this show's theme of "things we assume are normal but are actually pretty messed up."

  • Mark Randall
    Mark Randall 3 개월 전 +1

    A rather different story exists in the UK, in the village of Bournville, near Birmingham; it was built in the 1890's by the Cadbury family to provide housing for the families of workers at the world-famous Cadbury factory and, to independently administer the village, the "Bourneville Village Trust" was set up, which still operates to this day.
    Due to the unique nature of Bournville (most buildings in the village are Grade II Listed), the ability of people living there to make alterations to the housing stock is severely restricted, even down to the colours they can be painted, limits on the types of window that can be installed etc, but the residents are fine with it, as the Trust allow improvements so long as they retain their character.
    Oh, and one more thing - Bournville is a Dry Village (the Cadburys were Quakers, and that rule is still in place to this day).

  • Aarron Foreman
    Aarron Foreman 5 개월 전 +2239

    As somebody who used to be a manager for a HOA management company, I can tell you that everything in this is 100% correct. I was told by my boss on day 1 that I needed to have my assistant do daily inspections of all my communities and that if she didn't find at least 1 violation during each inspection, she wasn't doing her job correctly.
    And the board members are a joke... I oversaw 13 communities and never once did I have a board of directors that were decent people... all self absorbed penny pinchers who wanted to pass on their misery to other hard-working homeowners.
    I quit after only 7 months of employment - my breaking point was after an elderly man who had over $30k in back fees... all because he didn't get the boards "approval" to paint his house... and the management company I worked for was in the process of foreclosing on his home.

  • lgmisfit10
    lgmisfit10 5 개월 전 +13

    I found a home I really liked with HOA and I’m glad I passed on it. I dislike how nothing is disclosed until you’re already committed to buying.

    • Markus Brauns
      Markus Brauns 3 개월 전

      Funny how, the law states you must inform a potential buyer, if there had been a murder in the house, but no mention of HOA til after purchase? Makes no bloody sense to me.

    • Markus Brauns
      Markus Brauns 3 개월 전 +2

      Funny how, the law states you must inform a potential buyer, if there had been a murder in the house, but no mention of HOA til after purchase? Makes no bloody sense to me.

  • Bram Blenk
    Bram Blenk 3 개월 전 +7

    As a 36 year old that owns a home, that intro was depressingly on point

  • Aural Angst
    Aural Angst 3 개월 전 +2

    The more I learn about America, the happier I am that my parents migrated to Australia. America in one massive cluster.

    • Nevyn of OZ 1973
      Nevyn of OZ 1973 3 개월 전

      About 10 of my ancestors were migrated here, by the British, including my Indian ancestors.

  • Chee- Rex
    Chee- Rex 2 개월 전

    In Pennsylvania: Upon purchase of property within a planned community with an HOA, a public offering statement must be provided to the buyer describing community regulations. The buyer then has seven days to cancel the deal if they choose. If they continue with the purchase, they must obey all rules set forth by community documents

  • MyReadingMapped
    MyReadingMapped 3 개월 전 +1

    Homeowners Associations are set up by the original developer and are managed by a management company with ties to the developer who is hired by the HOA. Our HOA had had this relationship with the one management company for over 30 years. While the HOA is supposed to control the management company its the management company that sends you the violations and it is the HOA lawyers that are the ones who make billions going after you. I volunteered to assist my HOA clarify its communications after I was accused of having a bird bath I did not have. I sent them a photo of my front lawn and it took several months before they acknowledge their mistake and I informed them that the community manager didn't even know the rule that she claimed I violated. In our HOA we have an HOA code enforcement officer who drives around the community and reports any violations to the community manager. I seriously doubt even code enforcement officer knew the rule I supposedly broke since the community manager could not repeat it.
    So the HOA president, allowed me as a marketing communications professional to revise their rules document to make it clearer and to create a PDF of it where the table of contents linked to the rule each item applied to in order for both the community manager and residents to identify the violation. Having done it we showed it to the community manager and explained to her that she needs to be less threatening. Her response got her fired when she claimed that it was her job to threaten residents. The HOA also took my recommendation to allow residents to upload their documents via the HOA web site to the architectural review committee which made getting approvals faster and I recommended they put up examples of houses painted in the approved colors for residents to see. Which they did. Yet the HOA had a vote online to reduce the quorum requirement necessary to allow them to change policy easily. I warned them they would not get the vote necessary because we residents don't trust HOAs and they didn't get the vote necessary because lacking 25% of the residents is how we residents limit the HOA.

  • Virtua Person
    Virtua Person 5 개월 전 +1377

    As someone who always checks the "no HOA" box when looking at homes, that 82% statistic is very concerning

    • LmpNChi
      LmpNChi 5 개월 전 +31

      I'm going to guess most of those homes are in actual cities where some level of individuality is still permitted

    • Shelly Stein
      Shelly Stein 5 개월 전 +55

      The statistic applied to *new* construction, specifically. I work in a field that gives me a pretty good look at *new* housing construction and most new construction is subdivisions/suburbs. So it's unsettling but not surprising.

    • Shelly Stein
      Shelly Stein 5 개월 전 +18

      Also, best of luck with the home search! No HOA 🤟

    • Zombie Luka
      Zombie Luka 5 개월 전 +18

      Yeah it truly sucks being in Phoenix where every fucking suburb has an HOA. One of the reasons why I hate it here.

    • Blackdog4818
      Blackdog4818 5 개월 전 +14

      There are very few HOA's in rural Indiana where I live. But then again, it's Indiana. I'm the worst neighbor as far as cutting hedges (I don't) or letting trumpet plant overtake my mailbox until it looks like "Little Shop of Horrors". Surprised this hasn't led to a LOT more violent confrontations. If I lost my house...After paying it off over 20 years, I'd be VERY angry.

  • Carly Csontos
    Carly Csontos 개월 전

    My parents moved to the suburbs when they retired and they are now a part of an HOA. Before they moved in, the head of the HOA was fighting for the power to be able to approve or deny renovations people wanted INSIDE THEIR OWN HOME. Needless to say, he's not in that position anymore.

  • Ryan Priebe
    Ryan Priebe 10 일 전

    My HOA’s management company is useless so I started telling them that in our email communications. I noticed the “junior account rep” and the management company owner had the same surname so I asked if they were related. The boomer owner was shocked and asked incredulously if I thought that him hiring his failson at 14 years old implied any kind of “favouritism” on his part. He then promoted him to community manager in the same email. I call the boy either “boy” or nepobaby in all our email communications now.

  • Pedro Conejo
    Pedro Conejo 3 개월 전 +2

    Like so many people, I've had experience of an HOA, coincidentally, the Providence one mentioned in the report - a subdivision further along the highway had what looked like watchtowers recognisable to any Briton my age as the guard towers from Stalagluft III. Seeing them at work helped me to make the best decision ever: move away from the United States - obviously not the only thing, but it all added grist to the mill. And since this was in 2005, I've never had a single day when I've not been proved right.

  • klfjoat
    klfjoat 3 개월 전 +4

    Does anyone remember the episode of The X Files where the HOA's rules were enforced by a monster who would kill you? Seems tame compared to the reality!

  • Lijusav
    Lijusav 3 개월 전 +1

    Even if you're over 35, please go and watch the Chuck E special! As a European who has never been in their restaurant, I thoroughly enjoyed that special.

  • The Revies
    The Revies 5 개월 전 +230

    HOAs are basically an answer to the question “what if Karens formed a union?”

    • Joel Lahrman
      Joel Lahrman 5 개월 전 +2

      There is some truth to that. I've lived in two neighborhoods with HOAs and they've both been pretty hands off, but then people complain that they don't do anything or enforce anything. And if you don't have one at all, people endlessly complain about their neighbors. There's just no pleasing people!

    • darius alexandru
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  • Gtui Biwoy
    Gtui Biwoy 4 개월 전 +1

    Born in 88, we bought our first house basically in the middle nowhere. It’s amazing not having to abide by anyone’s rules.

  • Matthew Davey
    Matthew Davey 3 개월 전 +2

    HOAs are so weird. I'm in Australia and our local council handles road maintenance and trash collection, but it has no input on how my house looks and can definitely not issue a foreclosure on my property

  • The93Vector
    The93Vector 7 일 전

    I would never make the mistake of buying a house in an HOA, but if I did, and somehow got foreclosed and evicted, I can 100% promise that there would be a devastating fire in the home the same day I happened to move the last of my stuff out of it.

  • Sriracha Hero
    Sriracha Hero 2 개월 전

    This really underscores the difference between the City and the Suburbs. My high rise condo has an HOA and we have very little problem with them. In fact, I’ve only interacted with them when doing big projects like replace my floors or replace a kitchen sink.
    But, this is a problem for entitled suburbanites. They don’t know how to live in a community so they balk at HOA’s. High Rise HOA’s are very different than the suburban ones portrayed in this piece.

  • Zack Pumpkinhead
    Zack Pumpkinhead 2 개월 전 +1

    I was under the 35-year threshold for this video's viewerbase and boy, should I have listened. I'm never going within 10 miles of a homeowners' association ever again!

  • Queen Bey
    Queen Bey 5 개월 전 +1005

    When my HOA tried to penalize a few people over trash cans being "visible from the street", it turned into every house leaving their trash cans out front and people threatening to burn down the clubhouse. Needlesstosay, they haven't bothered anyone about trash cans in years.

    • Kit C
      Kit C 5 개월 전 +95

      Y'all should have just dissolved the HOA

    • Immortal Joe
      Immortal Joe 5 개월 전 +32

      omg that's awesome

    • Ariel Vining
      Ariel Vining 5 개월 전 +83

      Thats really the only solution. Community activism! Also, the HOA should def. be dissolved.

    • Shawn Curry
      Shawn Curry 5 개월 전 +11

      Fight the Power!

    • Duncan Gamble
      Duncan Gamble 5 개월 전 +14

      Now That's What I Call Democracy!

  • Paul Conner
    Paul Conner 5 개월 전 +1

    I lived in an HOA once in my life and luckily mine was hands off so we never heard from them. The unlucky part is when I went to sell my house for me to close I had to have a "certificate" from the HOA. It took me 6 weeks to get in touch with someone (this was in 2020). No one was answering emails or phones. I finally had to track down the HOA presidents personal phone number and call her because I couldn't get any response from the management company

  • Kronk Drużynowy
    Kronk Drużynowy 5 개월 전 +2

    I live in Poland, we only have HOA in apartments and I've obsessed to get out of their reach. I finally live in a house and I'm free. This episode genuinely scared me. I thought America was better than this. We have some landscape guidelines when we build, but its government-regulated and not so tight. Come on, regulate the SHAPE OF BUSHES in a yard??!!

  • Andrew Torrens
    Andrew Torrens 3 개월 전

    Ah, John Oliver. Always a source of joy and optimism!

  • edmaluf
    edmaluf 5 개월 전 +13

    When I grow up I wanna live in a tiny house in the middle of nowhere. No neighbors for miles... That's the dream.

  • Red
    Red 3 개월 전 +1

    As someone who is drastically weird and only wants to own a home so that no one can stop my aesthetic ambitions, I will be avoiding HOAs like the plague. My belief that lawns are a crime against nature alone would get me kicked out.

  • Jade Gourley
    Jade Gourley 5 개월 전 +878

    A few home owners in my dads neighborhood tried to start an HOA a few years ago. They had a meeting to vote if it should be put in place and only two people voted for it. Those people were then ostracized to the point they sold their homes and moved. Truly the best outcome imo

    • me myself
      me myself 5 개월 전 +70

      we just joined and subsequently managed to purge all our the old board members on our HOA. They were awful. 2 of the 8 have so far put their homes up for sale.

    • Michael Buehler
      Michael Buehler 5 개월 전 +34

      "They had a meeting to vote if it should be put in place and only two people voted for it. Those people were then ostracized to the point they sold their homes and moved."

    • Lindsey P
      Lindsey P 5 개월 전 +24

      this happened in my neighborhood as a kid. My dad who is typically never involved in anything went house to house and ran a serious campaign against it. The neighborhood voted against it by just one vote!

    • Viktoras Antanaitis
      Viktoras Antanaitis 5 개월 전

      @jade Gourley what you do than with tash collections and roads, who fix that?

    • J
      J 5 개월 전 +27

      ​​@Viktoras Antanaitis The local elected government, who should be doing it in the first place.

  • Liana Longe🏝
    Liana Longe🏝 5 개월 전 +1

    HOAs can be either good or bad. Sometimes it’s the board members that create annoyances and nightmares.

  • Dontae Hicks
    Dontae Hicks 5 개월 전 +2

    As an Arizona resident and homeowner I can tell you or HOA is the worst!.. absolute tyrants controlling things they don't own.

  • Elbow Creek Townhomes
    Elbow Creek Townhomes 2 개월 전 +1

    This video is truly enlightening! Thank you for sharing.

    RUNNER 3 개월 전 +1

    I lived in Amberleigh, a HOA community near Springfield in Fairfax County, Virginia. Sadly, the HOA President would patrol the area looking for vehicles with expired DMV stickers and report them to the police. Three of my neighbors received violation notices for minor issues. As a result, we all decided to sell our homes and leave the community within a year and a half.

  • Alicia K.
    Alicia K. 4 개월 전 +3

    The Chuck E Cheese segment is very real - URL still works - and is amazing! Very thorough and funny.

  • Dexter Nelson
    Dexter Nelson 5 개월 전 +489

    We bought a home from a developer while they were building the neighborhood and our contract did not have an HOA established because everything was still being built, (best way to buy a home by the way if you're going to do it).
    After about a year, the neighborhood built up around us and the HOA, which was created for the new home buyers, harrassed the crap out of us to try and get us to sign an agreement to join the HOA.
    Remember, we bought before one existed from the developer. There was no HOA provision in our agreement, so they couldn't force us into the HOA so we had to agree to join the HOA, and their tactics were absolutely ridiculous.
    Three times a week, we'd have someone come by our house to "meet with us" about joining, including lawyers. They tried to force us into paying fines, leave warnings, etc. BUT as long as we ignored them, they were uninforceable because, we weren't part of the HOA.
    So, they put a stop sign in front of our house, and made that a designated bus stop, so it became a hassle to even leave the house sometimes. They even tried to put a lean on the home, but it was dismissed because the judge saw all of their tactics and was absolutely disgusted.
    We never did join the HOA, but to absolutely tick them off, we sold the home direct to buyer, and the people that bought the home also had ZERO obligation to the HOA, not for lack of them trying to make sure that if we sold it, the person buying would be automatically part of the HOA. That was kicked out because, again, the judge was ticked off at them.
    As far as I know, the people that bought from us still own the home, and they haven't joined the HOA, which is good, because their fee at $2500 a year. Screw 'em lol

    • Shafer Hart
      Shafer Hart 5 개월 전 +29

      What the fuck. HOW could they even put a bus stop in front of your house?

    • Candace N
      Candace N 5 개월 전 +15

      Good for you! I love hearing stories of people who managed to evade or get out from under the thumb of HOAs.

    • Cari Waldick
      Cari Waldick 5 개월 전 +42

      This would be my dream scenario. Every time they'd come knocking, I'd add another gnome to the front yard. I'd paint my mailbox pink, and I'd have my Christmas lights up all year long. Every time they did something antagonistic, I'd pay them back with more kitsch.

    • Dexter Nelson
      Dexter Nelson 5 개월 전 +6

      @Shafer Hart Yeah. The house was on the main street in the neighborhood so school busses would hold up traffic in front of our house all the time.
      They made the pick up and drop off just a few feet from the end of our driveway.

    • Dexter Nelson
      Dexter Nelson 5 개월 전 +6

      @Cari Waldick lol. We weren't like that. I think my mom figured someone was paying for the attorneys and all the stuff they were doing. If that's what they wanted to spend the money on, let 'em

  • Deilen-SheThey
    Deilen-SheThey 3 개월 전 +1

    I'm so glad HOA's don't exist in the UK. I once heard a story of a wheel chair user who was continually fined by his HOA for having put up letter box he could actually reach because the rules said letter boxes had to be over a height he couldn't reach

  • ANonnyMouse
    ANonnyMouse 3 개월 전 +1

    Once the purpose of the rule enforcement is to make money, rather than to protect the community, then the HOA has become predatory.

  • Los
    Los 5 개월 전 +3

    A year or so back I ended up a few weeks behind on my HOA payment and had the guy who fancies himself the "King of the HOA" show up at my back door one evening asking me when I was going to pay it. To which my answer was, as soon as I was able. Found it hilarious he threatened to put a lien on my home for 125$..Said do whatever you feel you need to do chief.
    Also told him to never show up at my home again. If he had something he needed to communicate, feel free to do so via email or phone.

  • Adam Pippert
    Adam Pippert 5 개월 전 +1

    My last two homes I bought in neighborhoods where the HOA has dissolved years ago, but all the adjacent neighborhoods still have theirs. You get the aesthetic pressure of HOA compliance keeping the neighborhood looking nice, but with none of the legal or social hassle of a real HOA. Unless I buy a farm or a warehouse as my next home, this is the only way I’ll buy a home from here to perpetuity.