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Crime Reporting: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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- 게시일 2023. 10. 02.
- John Oliver discusses the outlets that cover crime, the incentives that drive them, the flawed sources they rely upon, and an alternative name for Miss Piggy.
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I'm very disappointed that the amount of free drugs I've been given in my life is far less than what I've been promised on the news.
Dugs
Hugs
You hang around the right people
Maybe this Halloween?
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I was struck from jury duty a few months ago because I was the only one in the room who said I was skeptical of police and that they don't always tell the truth. I didn't really want to be selected but it seems pretty ridiculous and blatantly biased that someone not blindly believing police is an automatic disqualifier for jurors.
Well, the US is quite famously a country with a "justice" system (really, a prison industrial complex), that civilised countries, like Norway, won't extradite people to on that basis alone.
@666Tomato666 The mere fact that there is such a poor system of accountability for fraudulent prosecutions means the system will always be a joke.
When the police union becomes the strongest union in the country, it starts to act on it's own and make it's own demands.
It's not a matter of "not blindly believing police", it's a simple matter of the police being an integral part of a criminal investigation. If you express the belief that police don't always tell the truth during jury selection then the prosecution is most certainly going to exclude you because the police investigation makes up the bulk of their case. They aren't going to take the chance that you'll hang the jury, especially since you warned them beforehand that you just might do exactly that. Prosecutions, particularly prosecutions for major felonies, cost a lot of time and money. Any prosecutor who DIDN'T at least try to exclude you would probably lose his job if it turns out that you hung the jury based on your stated belief. It's the same thing as telling them that you can spot a guilty person a mile away. Any defense lawyer who didn't at least try to exclude you would go down in flames, in more ways than one.
@slactweak How does that go against what I said? I was struck from the jury for saying I was skeptical of the police, (which every logical and reasonable person should be), because prosecutors want only people who buy into whatever the police say as truth. That is biased and indicative of a problem with the justice system.
"your kids' halloween candy is fentanol" is the new "your kids' halloween candy is full of razor blades". The more things change, the more they stay the same
Well they learned that "your kids candy is weed," cuz they learned no one is giving their edibles away for free
My theory is parents just want an excuse to go through their kids candy to steal the best pieces before they hand it back to them. 😉
I think there was 1 case of a child legitimately dying from poisoned Halloween candy, but it was his own father that did it. This happened in 1974 and the victim was a young boy named Timothy O'Brian. Other cases of children's deaths associated with Halloween candy were either verified by a coroner to have been caused by illness or an underlying condition or were caused by drugs that the child had found elsewhere. Actually, there have been 0 cases of a child, or really anyone, falling ill, being injured, or dying due to poisoned or otherwise tampered-with candy obtained from trick-or-treating.
Next up the fentanol will contain razor blades.
Razor blades are huge in comparison to the size of candy. How would you fit that in candy without it sticking out noticably?
As a fresh producer at a very local station, seeing these criticism on news makes me double check my work and sources and double back on criminal stories for updates
Yay!!!! Good on you!
You'll probably get fired once the ratings plummet cause your work isn't clickbaity enough
@k kurova And that is the crux of the problem in our society: we want a free press, but we don't want to pay for it unless it is about our problems, so to get paid, the news has to _make it_ our problem.
I hope you can keep it this way and don't get ground into the mill of "need more views, need more clickbait, need more extreme stories in less time".
The Internet Historian did a couple of videos on the AMAZING story behind balloon boy. Basically, due to the police falsely accusing the father, he had to plead guilty, because they were threatening to deport his wife and losing his kids. At any rate, seek out those videos he did. He even interviewed the dad. It's a really sad story and makes you pissed at the police department in that town.
It would have been fitting to mention it in this episode also, as it was mostly due to the medias reaction and reporting of it and NOT the actions of him or the family. It's kind of ironic how John uses it here, as the "second half" of the story he's referring to is just the end of the "first half".
@Fredspipa My heart was ripped from my chest when I heard the father's story. The utter helplessness and then fury at having to plead freaking guilty and then spending a year in jail when everyone knows what happened... Just infuriating to behold. And the sad thing is this poor guy just faded into history and all he'll be remembered for is "staging" his son riding in a balloon. At least he still has his family. 😕
They will do everything they can to make you plead guilty, every defense attorney would tell you that, it doesn't matter what transpired, gotta have that K/D maxxed out bruh. You want to let a dude out without admitting they did something bad? What are you, a pre-school teacher?
I paid a ticket once, and the department didn’t log that I paid it correctly, so they issued a warrant, arrested me, and booked me, only to release me nearly 3 hours later. Even though you could see online that my “charges were entered in error”, my picture was still in the JailBirds paper. 🙃
I will pay my tickets online in the future. I wish there was some recourse for this and the public embarrassment it caused me.
Is Jailbird Magazine like a school paper for inmates by inmates? If so, that sounds pretty harmless. Still annoying getting arrested though. I bet somebody just lost the original payment in their front pocket.
@Gullgutten where I live, they have a special weekly “newspaper” that shares every arrest, mugshot, and charge logged into the county data base the previous week. It’s sold at most gas stations in the county. I know several other counties in South Carolina also participate.
I remember seeing that, don’t worry, it sounded suspect
People should never be arrested for not paying fines. It doesn't happen in most countries, but the americans seem to love imprisoning people over trivial issues.
This is crazy! Even if you hadn't actually paid, the idea of detaining people over things that should amount to administrative fine at most, is crazy 🤦🏾♀️
The house of a friend of mine was raided years ago. The local newspaper's headline read: "Hard hit to the narco in our city" and the article indicated that 20kg of marijuana had been seized. We were flabbergasted. I mean, we knew he smoked regularly but 20kg (44 lbs) is a huge amount even for the most enthusiastic pothead. Turns out the police had weighted the marijuana while still on the plant... flowerpot and soil included.
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@RenTheWren The procedure was so flawed that the charges were changed from "possession with intent to distribute" to "simple possession" almost immediately after his lawyer appealed. He spent a few days in a police jail regardless and then was sentenced to some hours of community service since marijuana is still illegal in our country
Let's smoke some soil
I'm so glad the police were able to confiscate that soil before it ended up in kids Halloween candy!
Just so y’all know Pat Collins is a legend in the DC area every news story he does no matter how serious is hilarious
He retired recently. Unfortunate, but he looked pretty old in the clips he appeared in, so I guess I’m not surprised.
Never forget when he decided to interview a kid who was suspended from school for running around in a banana costume... while wearing a grape costume.
If you report about someone being accused of a crime there should be a legal mandate to publish a follow-up/correction if found innocent or not even charged.
Yes or just don't show their name and face if they're not convicted yet. That would be far less damaging
I would get an attorney and sue for defamation
Respect 🙏 for that fantastic woman journalist who actually reported the truth of the horrific incident and schooled that that child "journalist "
What?
I think he was a reporter, not a journalist.
I believe she was a Public Defender, not a journalist... but yes, all the respect in the world to her.
of course, the floor director just zoomed on to the next commercial or whatever. When does this woman get to explain WHY SHE DOUBTS what was originally "reported". When do unjustly accused people, get to sue the news outfits for smearing them and just walking away.
My mother-in-law brought up drugs being in our kid's candy the other day, and both my husband and I were like, "drugs are too expensive to be giving them out to kids"
Thank you so much for covering this very important issue. You're all doing a great job, LWT-Team.
Would you please consider bringing back the official subtitles? It's a great help for people with hearing impairments and foreign speakers.
My country doesn't have HBO, so I rely on KRclip. But we do have a lot of similar problems and I'm so happy to be able to watch these segments. A lot of them are internationally relevant anyways.
True! KRclip subtitles need work. If they’re the only subtitles you can use, they can be 10 seconds off, and they’re not accurate in terms of which words are spoken, where the pauses occur, etc.
Yes! It's baffling as to why every bigger show like this doesn't have official subtitles.
Truly.
i don't know if commenting boosts the comment, but I'm also hearing impaired with 2 hearing aides and would seriously appreciate official subtitles!
they must actually have subtitles from the official tv broadcast right? the stephen colbert show just adds those to the youtube videos and even if theyre not 100% accurate a lot of times, they're still really helpful. I'm not hearing impaired or ESL but my speakers are really quiet so it helps me too
There was an amber alert for a girl named Savannah Graziano that went out in my area of Los Angeles not too long ago; I remember being shocked and horrified about how close she would have been when she was kidnapped, so I tried to follow the story to see if she was safe.
Not even 24 hours later it came out that not only did the police shoot and kill the young girl when she was attempting to escape her kidnapper, they then proceeded to claim she was shooting at them and so they shot her multiple times in “self defense” (unsurprisingly, she didn’t have a weapon at all). They are so corrupt that they are actively trying to blame the child they were supposed to save for her own murder.
And when you search for news stories about the incident, almost all of them describe the false report the police put out. It’s fucking disgusting.
Just yesterday I read about a cop who shot an innocent guy eating in his car at McDonalds because the car looked the same as another one that seemed suspicious to him the day prior. [corrected:) He just walked up to the car, janked open the door, screamed at the guy to get out (no knocking on the window, not properly identifying as police), and because the shocked dude pulls the door shut and tries to drive away from what might have been a violent robber - the cop opens fire, while screaming "SHOTS FIRED" which was already a lie and reminds me of the Southpark hunters who scream "It's coming right at us" before shooting a bunny. So far the cop is fired (not in prison) and the guy is in the hospital now and might be in a grave soon. And if there happened to be a legal gun in the car, I know what story the jury would hear.
@Shuizid That doesn't match up with the video clip of his body cam. There, he just walks up to the car, opens the door, tell the boy to get out of the car. Boy instead tries to flee and cop promptly opens fire. It definitely sounds like the same story (eating in car at a McDs, based upon confusing the car with a similar looking one) though. Could be that the cop approached the car two times, and only the 2nd one was clipped, but that would make even less sense and your synopsis would still be inaccurate.
Tragic
@Alblaka Oh right, cop didn't interview the guy. Just a heavily armed dude coming up to a car, telling the guy inside to get out and the guy was freaked out and tried to drive away from someone who might very well be a criminal who just tried to rob him.
Not that it matters because the cop just tried to kill someone for driving away - which last time I checked, is not a crime punishable by death. But ofcourse by screaming "SHOTS FIRED" the cop was already telling his first lie - because nobody but him was firing.
When I was in middle school I'd see the local news and it seemed like every story was about a black person committing a crime. I was terrified of our house being broken into all the time. I lived in a very small town where a lot of people didn't even lock their doors. News can absolutely fuel fear and racism. Too bad everything in this country is supposed to maximize profits instead of providing a honest public service.
I used to work in a coffee shop, and a cop used to ask one of the female baristas to write things like "sensitive bitch" on his cup. It was a really awkward and creepy situation. Eventually, she started hiding in the back whenever he came in. Thankfully, he stopped coming, but he held such power over her by virtue of being a policeman. She was afraid if she told him no, he could make her life absolutely miserable.
Pat Collins has been an absolute national treasure for The DMV. He pulls no punches and tells everything like it is!
_blatant repost from elsewhere incoming_
He retired recently. Unfortunate, but he looked pretty old in the clips he appeared in, so I guess I’m not surprised.
I would love to see a companion series that just focused on the after effects of LWT’s stories. This show is making serious impacts.
I would ABSOLUTELY watch this. Meanwhile, I’m patiently waiting for the LWT team to win some sort of humanitarian service award. They will, won’t they?!? Surely...
like the walking dead wrap up with Chris harding, but relevant. im on board.
True. Except for net neutrality
I believe there's Wiki article about this called The Oliver Effect (or something similar)
Thank you John Oliver for continuing to be a voice (a very acerbic and funny one at that) for critical thinking, something that is becoming increasingly rare in our society.
I'm a retired attorney. When I first started 30 years ago I did criminal cases to gain trial experience. One of the cases I got was of an Asian man arrested for drunk driving.
The cop testified that he pulled over the defendant because he had swerved over the yellow line several times. When stopped, the defendant smelled alcohol on the defendant's breath so he gave him a field sobriety test. He also testified that defendant had stopped his car under a street light and that visibility was very good. He did a field sobriety test which defendant failed. Defendant had refused the breathalyzer test at the station. These things were all in his report, except for driving over the yellow line repeatedly (the reported stated only once). The cop went on to testify which wasn't in his report that defendant had slurred speech and fell down during the encounter. (Sounds pretty convincing.)
My turn. I introduce defendant's medical records that he was in a car accident the previous week and had a broken foot. He was physically unable to do the "walk a line" test, but cop never saw a cast on his foot. The police report said the car was brown, in reality it was green. Defendant's wife worked at the police department and he claimed he argued with the cop about going to the station because he knew that once taken there, even if he passed the breathalyzer, the police will not take you back to your car and he didn't want to be stranded miles away from home. He also believed he had passed the test, touching his nose, counting backwards, and thought he would be released so he refused the breathalyzer. He argued with the cop about this for several minutes he said and gave the reason of not being driven back to his car which he knew because his wife worked there. About details not in the report, I asked the cop what he did the day before / after arresting defendant. He couldn't remember if he even had worked. Asked how many people he had arrested since arresting my client, he said hundreds. Asked if defendant told him that his wife worked at the station doing prisoner intake, said he didn't know her. When she got up to testify she waved to the cop and called him by name, to which he responded back calling her name.
I thought I had provided enough evidence to show there was doubt about my client's guilt. It took the jury only 20 minutes to convict him. So remember this, once you are arrested you basically already guilty. No jury in the US will not believe a cop regardless of the evidence otherwise.
Well that's fucking disheartening
Sadly they convicted him and they really didn't hear any of the evidence that you provided because they already knew what they were going to do. Sad 🥺🥺🥺
I was beaten by police for having a seizure, and somehow I beat myself up. Every policeman lied. Even with my neurologist, I was convicted of resisting arrest.
That was just racism & conditioning, 30 years people didn't know as much about how bad cops are but they were still super racist, even unconsciously race was a big deal-
I mean did we need to know your client was an Asian guy? I hate this place
My hat is off to the thousands of journalists in this country who maintain journalistic integrity at the undeserved peril of losing their jobs for the sake of viewership and money. May you ascend to editorship and beyond. Yours is the reason we have a semblance of fair democracy left in this country. Godspeed!
This is so eye opening to me cuz in journalism school you really are taught to find crime stories through police press releases. I myself am complete distrustful of police but for some reason, never thought to question their press releases when quoting them for a story
Not just journalism school! I learned that in my high school journalism class. As a writer, I now take information from police with a huge grain of salt.
I guess you can't look at it the same now after seeing this >>;=)
John Oliver is great. I appreciate how after all the doom and gloom, he always gives ways to change things. Keep up the good work, Last Week Tonight! ❤
You can always tell how much news a person watches by how fearful they are. We haven’t had television since 1999 and only read newspapers. While newspaper reporting isn’t perfect, by any stretch, it is easier for me to keep a critical eye while reading than it is when watching. We have traveled extensively at times and have met many wonderful people but people doing nice things for each other doesn’t sell.
I have not had TV for most of my adult life starting in 1987. Maybe 4 years total, broken across decades. And I agree. TV is horrible and it's really gone downhill. Now I only get it when I stay in a motel, but honestly, the commercials are entertainment.
Having to sell and be profitable is a problem where news should be an honest public service.
The difference is that it's a lot easier for a reader to fact check a newspaper story than it is for someone watching a news broadcast. You can't go back in a news broadcast if it seems like something in it is self contradictory, you also can't pause and think if something sounds questionable and if you just hear something spoken out loud it might be difficult to search for that name or word to check for yourself since you might not be sure of the spelling. You can do all of those things in a newspaper though. At the same time TV can use the same effects that film uses in order to make something more exciting or induce some kind of feeling.
Also this is not perfect but in my country if someone is charged but hasn't been sentenced their name and face is censored. Sometimes it leads to funny situations like "Patric S. who is accused of killing his father Michael Smith has been arrested", but most of the time you won't guess the identity of the arrestee if you don't know them personally. Also quite unlikely that it will come up when your name is googled by a prospective employer. It genuinely baffles me when I read news stories with not only the face, name, but sometimes even street address of a suspect in UK media
This is SUCH a good idea! Especially with the way that the internet is forever, an innocent person could have their reputation tarnished for decades. Plus, there have even been cases where people with the same name as criminals have been negatively affected because journalists can sometimes use the wrong image to identify a suspect when it’s simply someone who has the same name as the person being arrested. I mean when you really think about it the policy of reporting all the identifying info on someone merely suspected of a crime completely defeats the purpose of innocent until proven guilty.
That makes wayy too much sense for the US.
I have lived in the Washington DC area for many years, and have had the pleasure of watching Pat Collins' unique style of reporting. He also handles reporting of more serious crimes, always with a touch of humanity. Thank you for introducing him to a national audience.
A genuine national treasure, that man.
I am ride or die for Pat Collins. The man is a legend and one of the nicest humans on the planet.
I will never be too old to look forward to and enjoy Pat Collins and his snow stick coverage.
I would kill for Pat Collins. Not sure why I think he'd want me to, but the option is out there, Pat.
Ditto... He has to be one of my favorite individuals on the planet.
After graduating from college with a Mass Communications degree I was excited to get a job as a photographer at news station. After I had done the job for about 6 months I found myself in the newsroom one day waiting for an assignment and the News Director couldn't come up with any place to send me. He and the anchor were bemoaning a "slow news day" and the anchor said to, pretty much the whole newsroom: "What I wouldn't give for double homicide right now". After that I started to notice more comments like this and that ultimately led to me getting the hell out of there.
We live in a sick society where some people thrive off the pain, suffering, even death of others. Guess with a slow day, they never thought to cover something upbeat or positive in the community.
John Oliver is the only KRclip content that I don't watch at a higher speed. It's not just his rate of delivery... it's the paragon of brilliant, tightly written, expertly delivered, smartly edited content with great graphics work to boot.
I had a criminal charge thrown out of court against me because the cops broke into my mom's home. Their reasoning was that there was a medical emergency. There wasn't. They tried to get my brother and I for not opening the door for them.
Another way to convince them is to tell them this "This time it was someone else, what if the next time it's YOU who's falsely accused of a crime?"
Unfortunately many need it to happen to them or they'll choose death over caring...
For all the parents who may not know. I have a 6 year old daughter. I'm not worried about halloween. This is because literally no one is going to be giving their drugs away for free. I don't always think John give the whole story, but this is a solid piece of work.
In my country, those accused of or arrested for a craime cannot be shown or named in media - UNTIL they are convicted. It always baffles me how in the US, you can. It seems so common sense to not destroy any innocent lives!
Exactly. I share this information all the time I can’t believe we allow it either. The US is one big corrupt place.
Nice, that really sounds like an important step to fixing this. May I ask in which country you live?
Is that country Crimea?
It's how they ensure someone is guilty in the court of public opinion. Just look at the poor fellow they fingered for the Olympic bombing in Atlanta. They didn't even have sufficient evidence against the guy but went ahead and tore his life apart. And I guarantee to this day he has that hanging over him even though he was innocent.
You also have to look at the nefarious language used against POC by journalists. The language used has shaped perceived notions ppl have about POC.
#UnacceptableAmerica
I got in a (short) heated discussion with my coworkers once or twice about the fact that crime is statistically lower now and every time they angrily shut me down. I guess people believe what they want. Go ahead and keep your children huddled inside 24/7 because "there's a lot of sick people out there." It's important to be cautious but people take it WAY TOO FAR.
Thank you last week tonight team for showing that Subway in Layton UT - I lived about 3 minutes away from it when that story happened. They tried to charge a teenager who was saving up money for his LDS mission with drugging the officers and the teen worker settled with the city for thousands. The business owners tried to sue but failed because they lost a ton of business and other subways in the area had employees making comments about their location.
Absolutely vital issue. My parents watch daily news and I am constantly telling them to stop. They're terrified of me getting hit by crime in my perfectly safe apartment community.
just curious - how does your apartment building be a community ??
@don cahooti I assume this might be because the people actually interact with each other.
I work in local news and it's ridiculous how excited some people in that news room are to report on crime.
Our city isn't even that bad, but if you work in news or watch our channel, you'll think it's all going down the toilet.
I will say though that I think a lot of stations know that their local police isn't telling the whole truth.
They also know that if they really push back they could lose them as a source, and since crime is the biggest thing in local news, that's a no go.
It's something I've struggled with being a videographer for the station and it's one of the things that's just confirmed for me that I need to get out of news for my own sake. 😆
Your videos are very good, and thank you for diminishing "bad words" in your show. I appreciate your intact sense of justice and righteousness. And you humour of course!
For fucks sake, how many decades have people been trying to scare parents into thinking evil people are putting shit in kids Halloween candy? When I was a kid they told us to check all of our candy for needles and razor blades... Drugs in candy is even dumber for all the reasons stated in the video.
Yeah, obviously. How does someone logically conclude you can turn a person, a child no less, into a costumer by secretly and anonymously drugging them.
They wouldn't even know what happened and they certainly wouldn't know where to get more.
Yeah, this stuff is generational at this point. And, if I can be so bold as to state the obvious, it's not just rainbow fentanyl, none of the blades or needles or anything was ever found in halloween candy, at least halloween candy distributed by strangers to children. IIRC, there were like 1 or 2 cases, but it is universally the parent trying to harm their child, not someone they got the candy from while trick or treating.
I have no idea how some people are so gullible as to keep the story alive. It was one thing when the urban legend started and people were way more credulous, but like you said, generations of people have grown up being told it and the information about how often it happens is freely and easily available. Not to mention you have never known anyone that it happened to (Other than the miraculous friend of a friend who experiences everything unbelievable)
Oh my God, that bit about football. 😂 I love it, I've been morally opposed to football for years after I learned about how common concussions and CTE are. People legit die for our entertainment or have their brains irreparably damaged. I know some do it for scholarships as well but there's got to be a better way...
doing it for scholarships = doing it for money, it's the messed up problem
I used to work for a tiny newspaper in rural Wisconsin and, shamefully, I succumbed to a lot of this. I blame the constant *need* for news in this country, because we always looked at it as "filling column inches"...because that's what our primary focus was. We needed to put out a news article *every week*, and so many things our publisher shot down as "not news." Police probable cause reports were some of the easiest stuff to write about. We just translated them from cop lingo to proper English, slapped them somewhere inside with a mugshot, and we could breathe for another week.
A young man in Colorado called police after his car got stuck, he said that Skinwalkers were after him. When police arrived he was locked in his car, frightened. Police tried to get him to exit the car, but he kept talking about Skinwalkers and telling the officers to be careful. He said he had a knife, and offered to throw it out the window, for some reason the officers told him not to do that. After a while they become impatient and started yelling, they broke out a window in the car. One stood one the hood with his gun pointing at the young man. Then they decided that he was a threat, while inside the closed car, armed with only a knife and opened fire. They feared for their lives, from a man who didn’t get out of the car. I don’t know where they had to be in such a hurry, why they couldn’t wait and maybe find another way. Perhaps tell him they were sending for an expert on Skinwalkers. The young man might be alive now, getting the help he needs, and his family would not be grieving. Too many police officers are so focused on power that they forget they are supposed to be helping.
That gal from Rising was an absolute QUEEN! We need more people in the news like her.
Yeah she looked great ^^ whats her name?
Easy to look at also
Cellphone cameras are the greatest invention ever.
Just imagine how many coverups cops have gotten away with over the ages.
My brother was arrested for pocession of a "quantity of marijuana" there was a broken bowl and some microscopic green material that might of been grass or weed at a friend's house when the cops illegally raided it without a search warrant. The charges were dismissed after the cop admitted on stand he lied. The lying, the illegal raid, the 10% bond I paid for him and never got back and the fact that they arrested him at work 6 months after the illegal raid, never made the news but his arrest did.
and I bet the police were never punished for breaking the law, nor was he compensated for the money he lost at work for an illegal arrest.
Has he consulted an attorney regarding pursuing legal action against the officer/department
Please do a story about lawmakers not making laws against what should be board room crimes or congress and senate crimes! PLEASE
@TheDigitalGoose Most likely it would cost him more for the legal actions than he would get with the US system.
Just gonna point out that in the very first line you’re already misspelling possession. Which is going to make your random claim on the internet even less believable 😂
Working in journalism, this video is SO important.
There's something wrong with how we report news in the digital era. I highly advise all my friends to always check stories from outlets with different political affiliations and to read journals.
Journals are the only way of reading high quality and verified information today.
I've grown up in the DC area and Pat Collins is literally a treasure. He's so nice in person (I ran into him and fanboy'd multiple times in the Gaithersburg Costco) and such a great interviewer. Thank you for representing him!!
The news has literally turned into a 24 hour police report channel.
I think a very important point that is mentioned very early in the segment and shouldn't be overlooked: If you're watching and centered on the criminality around you, you begin to worry, fear, and think only about it. THis becomes even more impactful when you thnk about race in America and the coverage/%s mentioned in this segment. That being said, watching the news is more about ads than information and you'd be best served to think positively, impact your community, and love those you come into contact with.
I bust a gut laughing at the El Cheapo bust. These are kids who grew up playing cops and robbers and have waited their whole life to take a pic like that. Cop cosplayers. 🤣
Cops-players
@Mattia Carciola no u
Counterpoint: Cheapo the Discount Villain was a real character on Stripperella. It's canon in the Marvel animated universe.
Being a cop is just cosplay. You aren't required to know anything about actual laws in order to be a cop.
An obvious way to remedy this situation is to remove the profit motive. Years ago the news was not considered a profit center and it was far more honest and informative. The only question is how to remove the profit motive and yet still have news. One way may be to prohibit ads during news programs while allowing tax write-offs for having news programs.
I understand, but I do not fully agree.
I was fully grown, before the internet became a global phenomenon. The papers, radio, and televised news, before the sensationalized aspect of what is considered news today.
These institutes profits were directly affected by how reliable their reporting was demonstrated to be. "Investigative journalism" was the Pinacle of the industry. Those brave, (absolutely mad), men and women went into the world, found their own sources, interviewed victims, witnesses, accused, and members of the legal system, to get as close to the truth as they could. And what kept them honest? Their competitors. Their peers. The other mad lads, and lady's, that walked into the wolves den armed only with a notepad, pen, and Polaroid camera, attempting to get closer to the same truths as their professional counterparts. These are the jobs and rolls, that your politicians have gutted through litigation, and legislation, because THEY didn't want that level of scrutiny or accountability at their doorstep. The media corporates, and reporters, tended to agree, and "reported" exactly what was needed, regardless of whether or not it was true, to support that scurrilous change in law. And that change has obliterated the reliability of News they "report" on.
There is no longer ANY news that has been investigated, by a journalist.
Instead of destroying the industry by gutting their profits. I suggest linking their success directly to the accuracy of their reports. Civil oversight is an absolute must in this endeavour. As is regulation, and criminal repercussions for those demonstrating egregious miscarriage of objective truth.
Tl;dr. Your legislature destroyed journalism, and its integrity in an effort to prevent their own accountability. Entirely based on lies.
That needs to be reversed.
But how are Tide, AT&T, and Burger King gonna be able to remind everyone that they exist? 4 mins of viewing contains 1 minute of advertising. It's a little messed up. That's not including NEWS pieces that begin..."Now let's head over to the ball park at the Bud Light Pavillion and recreation center"......😖
2 words: yellow journalism
I once helped a patron find evidence that he was held and arrested by the county police. He needed proof to show their legal department because they were trying to gaslight him since the charges were dropped. They were outright saying he was never held and, by that logic, they didn't need to turn anything over. This was one of those times a mugshot in the newspaper was a good thing.
These were technically my coworkers gaslighting someone we are supposed to jointly serve in the community. That wasn't the first time I've helped a patron learn how to search for records and it wasn't the last time.
🔥🔥🔥This segment should be taught in broadcast journalism courses
My ex husband's name is Jim. It is not short for anything, but people always assume it is. Many important documents, even from government institutions, put him as "james" because an office worker must have taken it upon themselves to "correct" it on forms.
The Minneapolis reporter referred to the alleged crime as a "forgery", which is incorrect. It was a suspected counterfeit bill. Counterfeiting and forgery although similar, are two different things.
Hi John ! I would love if you could talk about the forced abduction from their family from "supposedly" mistreated children in the UK. In France, there have been a whole reporting on this matter for example.
Favourite "cop faking fast food hate crime" was the guy who's starbucks drink label said "PIG" and everyone quickly pointed out that the part of the label was specifically for the name you give yourself for an online order lmao
@Cam yes this is exactly true, also an employee will immediately know if some dude named bob is a cop or not just by how the name pops up on their orders screen.
So while they will know the anonymous name is a cop, they'll be powerless to write pig on it.
I'm with cam cops never lie they are perfect its always the poor Starbucks employee everyone knows they always get there way in life
@Cam Audrey said an *online* order, to be clear, dear. As in, he instructed the employee online to put "Pig" on his cup, by his request. Which is even funnier. I'd love it if cops paid me to call them pigs. Throw in being allowed to unionize and it sounds like a great job!
I heard a Starbucks employee was fired though?
21:28 - he came *this* close. The bulk of that money wasn’t from fines, it was from civil asset forfeiture, literal highway robbery with a badge.
they did an episode on that actually the first one I ever watched lol
I was assaulted by a stranger outside of my building (New Orleans is just circling the drain.) A surveillance video from almost 200 yards away, and with a privacy fence in between, evidently didn’t match my story. “ I wasn’t running like I was almost raped.” Actually, they ran my name, saw my record ( just drug charges); all of a sudden I was trash. They kept me there for 14 hrs, lied to my mother and said I had left, and I was not given a drop of water or crumb to eat. Nothing like being attacked and then being cuffed.
I do not trust cops. Any of them, anywhere.
Love to see Pat Collins! He's a legend in DC and Maryland news. He was man about town and always cheeky in his stories and reporting about often overlooked injustices. Always looked at the human element to every situation.
Watching this as a brazilian person it's absolutely hilarious (in a very tragic way) how many blights in our society are imported straight from the US.
Never let the truth, people’s lives, or social harmony get in the way of a good story when you’ve got advertise a space to sell. And you’re not allowed to tell us to do better because it’s the free press.
Seeing that reporter shut down her ignorant cohost with stone cold logic was absolutely beautiful to see. What an absolute tool that guy was.
That was priceless, albeit a little irritating that she had to be the one to fact-check him and remind him of his job. People like that man and the situations they put us in are exhausting.
@Vincenta Van Gogh About him doing his job... isn't he just an anchor? I thought the journalists go out and get the story and the anchors just read it. Maybe I am wrong. I never researched this.
(edited to add: I researched her. She is a lawyer/activist and her name is Olayemi Olurin
"now we have have to calculate pi by hand because he plugged in the Overlord"
Yeh, she really did her fact-checking! She even mentioned there WAS a gun in the car and he DID fire it at police! ...Oh wait...
I’m so happy that everyone has phones and that body cams are being used by a lot of police departments. I’ve been beaten up by the police and was harassed by them for nearly four years until I moved. The main officer I had problems with was eventually fired for excessive use of force. But every time you tell friends or family they act like your crazy or say you must have done something to provoke being hit, what happened one time, and this was after the officer already knew where I lived. Someone new to the neighborhood saw me climbing through my window when I got locked out. I was going to be late for and didn’t want to call the landlord for fear they’d charge me to come open the door. Anyways they get a call of a possible breaking and entering. Officer asshole shows up and draw his gun on me, bear in mind he knew me, I’m not a violent person but I will argue with someone, anyways he’s knows where I live. He draws his gun with no reason to think I was actually breaking into my house, and I’ve never had an violent confrontation with any officer. So he commands me to place my hands ontop of my head turn around, I complied so I’m kneeled down hand on my head facing the other way. And I hear this fat fuck say to the other officer “cover me” he proceeds to run and tackle me from behind hurting my back and knocking the wind out of me. Luckily I didn’t have permanent injury I was 20 at the time but I was sore for weeks. I regret not filing a complaint but it was also 2008 and no one at that police department had body cams so he would have been able to explain it away.
That lady arguing in real time on air to push back the police story is a hero. That's so nerve-wracking to go off script on air like that. She knew it was more important than the teleprompter.
When I was on drugs it was 100$ a day minimum, I am just trying to imagine a kid trying to figure that hussle out in-between first grade.
Yep. when things got bad before the H and fent and I was doing 10-30z a day and 80z when I could.... even with the hustle and the freebies it was a couple hundred.
Taking the police at their word after they are directly involved in the situation is a massive conflict of interest.
Someone give that women a raise and her own show!
I cannot believe these halloween drug scares are still going.
They should be required to hold a flashlight under their chin and use a spooky voice whenever they report that stuff.
I dunno but this made laugh.
I can just picture a newsreporter doing a spooky voice 🤣.
@erlinda alba i'd feel more comfortable if they did. Or let Ron Burgandy do the news.
When I was a kid it was razor blades in the candy. I heard about it every year
Hey Chrissie, I also really enjoyed that joke. Keep up the good work! You're killin' it!
Holy shit… the only year people weren’t more scared of crime is the one year the news cycle was 100% dominated by stories about something unrelated to domestic crime
I like Jon Oliver's show a lot, but this one was really quite good. Great episode.
We need a national and state sentencing that routinely reviews police statements/ reports. Police lie and are rarely held accountable.
i work at a drug & alcohol rehab as a nurse. one day, four of our clients left treatment against medical advice (as a lot of times someone will leave and others who were considering it but hadn't made up their mind yet would decide to go with them so they can all get high together) and walked out on foot, stole two cars from a nearby store and went on a high-speed chase from police. the local news got the story solely from the police scanner radio they were listening to and wrote that they were patients at my facility without asking us or anyone else about it since the police had mentioned that we had called them on the radio. it made us look HORRIBLE and everyone in the comments were demanding to know why we would just let criminals leave, not understanding that we're not a lockdown facility and that we didn't purposely discharge them. what a mess!
Letting cops write their own press is like letting lobbyists write their own laws. No need to replace "police say" with "police claim." Save time by assuming they're making shit up from the gitgo.
from the gitgo?
@francookie stop
The worst thing is that lobbyists also write their own laws.
"Letting lobbyists write their own laws"
I have some bad news for you
@Sloane Kuria He has a point. What is gitgo and why is it infinitely cringe?
Can you please do a story on what is currently happening in Iran? I love your show and I know my community would be super appreciative if we got some support and representation!
John Oliver has always given great insight into so many issues. The fact that he does this, even to this date is highly commendable. I shall always watch these videos!!
Pat Collins, Jim Vance, Doreen Gentzler, George Michael. Every news story I remember from whole childhood was narrated by one of them.
Investigative Journalism needs to make a comeback. Far too many times we see reporters parrot police statements as unquestionable fact, despite being proven that, a lot of times its bullshit.
What’s messed up is I’ve made this point many many years ago and no one believed me. And I knew Jon Oliver would eventually make an episode about it. And when I saw news reporting I knew this is what it would be about
This Vehicle Vandal reporter looks a lot like the reporter that wore the grape suit to defend the kid who dressed up as grapes and got suspended.
Edit: IT IS! Pat Collins. Real recognize real.
This guy haunted my dreams when I was younger. Couldn't stand him.
This comment needs more likes, they should get that man on as a co-host with John for shits and giggles.
Finding Austin John randomly in a John Oliver comment section is so weird. Lol.
I strongly suspect that LWT reached out to him to do a cameo in this episode, and either he declined or didn't respond.
They did an update with the Banana Boy. He’s a rocker in L.A. now named Leon Knight. His music sounds pretty good. Like a mix of Lenny Kravitz and Prince.
A lot of these "local news" channels belong to massive media conglomerates who's stakeholders are all too happy to not change their ways as long as they keep viewers engaged and riled up, but I do hope many conscious producers do try to make a change.
I actually agree with everything said here and love the way it was said. The media, in general, is too often used to "sway" public opinion rather than to simply inform it of actual facts. Too many times, the media was used against certain races, certain religions, certain governments or even public figures to showcase them under a specific light. The question that always comes to my mind is, who is truly responsible? Who gives these media and public news companies the directives and indications of what to talk about and how to talk about it. I've wondered this one thing so many times, but I don't think I'll ever find an answer.
It's so releaving to see that the media actually listened to John! The moment they realised that all their segments on #stopasinahate feature black assultants, media they suddently decided that posting mugshots serve no purpose and generally speaking crime reports are way too frequent segment :)
Big win fo us!
This reminds me of what happened to Richard Jule after he helped evacuate people after the bombing at the ‘96 Olympic in Atlanta. He was never arrested, the FBI had no evidence against him and were going solely off of their own assumptions and a newspaper printed as their big front page story that he was the main suspect. Even if he was the main focus of the FBI investigation at the time the journalist never reported the fact that law enforcement had literally zero grounds for an arrest and put this innocent man who was actually a selfless individual through the ringer and ruined his life.
Thank you for giving me additional material to show when I'm educating people in my community on truth vs myth of fentanyl!
As always a big round of applause for John Oliver‘s research department
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know your constitutional rights, read your police dept's policies and be prepared to call out their policy infractions, request a supervisor as soon as you feel your rights might be violated, never answer questions, never perform field sobriety tests
I'm still amazed at the halloween stories. You guys getting drugs for free? In my city you don't even have to worry about getting your drink spiked in a club because no one willingly gives you their expensive drugs.
Which city is that, if I may ask?
@Lily Harris Well, I'm from one of the two worst parts of Czech Republic. My city (or town I guess) is like the second worst in the living standard. Barely even czech people know that it exists tho.
I love when the audience laughs 😂
Remember when he was in a silent white void?
Amen to all that. My biggest gripe is when news reporters not only repeat the narrative fed to them, but start using the jargon and letting it creep into all of their reporting. My favorite red flag is the use of the term "routine traffic stop". At that moment, I know the reporter has drunk the Kool-Aid.
I didn’t realize that drug dealers were so generous with just giving out their drugs! 😂
I use to work for a small town newspaper when one of our reporter's started doing a investigative story on the police department covering up a drunk driving accident involving a police officer. The police retaliated by making it as difficult as possible for the news paper to get the police blotter for that day. The reporter also was being followed by cops just to harass him
That's what gangs do.
I remember hearing about the link between heavy TV viewing and fear of crime during Reagan's era.
This is all very true and definitely interesting to watch while reading "The New Jim Crow" but can we PLEASE talk about the Miss Piggy joke 🤣 I almost choked on my food 😭😭😭
I interned for this Juvenile Intensive Probation Program in college & it was sickening. The judge did whatever the arresting officer said to do & some of the POs joked about misbehaving kids being job security. 2006, I think.
Fantastic piece, John, absolutely fantastic. Thank you.
Give that woman at the end a trophy, and to be head of defending free press everywhere in this country.
Unfortunately a lot of this starts at journalism classes in college. I just graduated last year and I'm working as a journalist and I and other young journalists are so upset by the courses we had with exercises like "Take this police report and rewrite it into a news story, you have 5 minutes."
Yikes. I was on a school newspaper 15 years ago and they said it's not a story if you don't have multiple sources and perspectives.
Hey, don't be upset. That's preparing you to work in the news industry more than any other exercise could.
Hope you don't have journalistic integrity. It's going to hurt your chances of success.
@jayspeidell Regarding the multiple sources: although German police lie plenty, they're still treated as a "privileged source" (that doesn't need any confirmation) by most media here.
I laugh at how they try to always avoid saying "police killed so and so". How they often phrase it as neutral as possible like some magical gun happened to shoot without anybody holding it. I've even seen it phrased like "so and so died when struck by bullets during an arrest" like not even the gun itself was involved.
The number of people trying to get me hooked on drugs is significantly lower than I was led to believe by PSAs I saw when I was a kid. Of course, being a really, obviously nerdy kid probably helped. I doubt anybody ever looked at me and thought, "I bet that party girl is ready to get high!"
I've always loved the irrational belief that people give away expensive drugs for free
Excellent reporting John as usual!