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- 게시일 2023. 10. 02.
- John Oliver discusses the conditions farmworkers face, how we’ve failed to protect them, and the Jolly Green Giant’s body hair.
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Farm workers are truly the backbone of our country. They deserve better.
It should come directly out of corporate profits, maybe even get rid of the profit incentive all together and nationalize parts of it, we subsidize it way too much already just to have corporations sell it back to us with great margins for them because consumers paid to grow it.
Government employees get paid way better and pensions, unionize your work place
The backbone of so many countries, not just the USA!
we need to force our lawmakers, and THEIR kids, to work fields in the blistering sun with slave wages.
@I Must Bust The backbone of humanity, without agriculture there's no way we could sustain so many people period.
John, please cover the American foster system. I work with foster kids and every new thing I learn is something that you and your team desperately need to cover. It REALLY needs a hit from the John Oliver effect.
But to give a few examples, knowing full well that this probably won't be seen:
It was recognized as early as 1912 that we shouldn't be putting children into institutions and that putting kids with foster families if their original families weren't safe for them was in their best interests.
Many times these days, children are taken from homes that are NOT actually abusive but merely "neglectful" though not because of failings of the parents - merely because the parents are poor, or frequently people of color. It is extremely difficult to get one's children back, but it is also difficult to properly *adopt* children from foster care as well, much of the time, meaning that many of the children in question wind up in legal limbo with no stable housing or stable living environment.
Many states also vary their requirements for screening foster parents - some having very little, some having requirements that are excellent but excruciatingly expensive to fulfill - and in either case the requirements to pay falls on prospective foster parents. Which means that in many cases, children are EITHER put in horrible, abusive, unstable foster homes, OR put in a backlog because many states simply do not have adequate foster homes to accept them, which has led to ANOTHER problem - which is that despite that we were supposed to begin phasing out orphanages in 1920 and the last one DID close its doors in 1973, we began bringing them back in the 1980s and calling them "group homes" - some of the kids there are those who have serious mental helath issues, trauma, etc,. others are those who simply do not have placements. Many foster children who have experienced psych wards or juvie compare group homes unfavorably to the former two.
We're still not done. Because many states are supposed to supply some kind of stipend for foster children to have money for after they leave the system or "age out" but it is *very* common for states - and frequently private agencies they hire - to straight up steal the money meant to go to those children. Alaska recently got caught up in one such scandal as it was the most brazen, but it is far from the only one.
Also children in these situations can and are frequently subject to medical abuse or unnecessary use of antipsychotics for things like running away from abusive homes or fairly common trauma responses.
Rehoming groups have also sprung up on facebook in which people essentially trade foster kids around when they are not getting along with the adoptive/foster parents' biological kids - this is technically not, strictly, illegal, though it is not strictly legal either. That, and hundreds of foster kids go straight up missing every year. Like we actually straight up do not know where they go. Texas is the most egregious in this regard, though it is, again, far from the ONLY one with this problem.
Again, this is a system in dire need of the John oliver effect.
I'm definitely interested in hearing more on this, and I'm sure many viewers will! But maybe you could write an email to the production team, with more background information and examples to convince them that they have a story there. I doubt a KRclip comment will have much impact nor reach the team of writers.
@Pravind Segaran I would actually love to do that, and have looked around on the website, and various social for the production team's contact. I have been trying to find a means of contacting them. If you know where I may be able to find it...
Hasnt he covered foster care before? Im in Texas and thought he covered it in the past. I mean another episode would definitely be needed.
@Liz Ross he has not, he has covered family separation in immigration, but not foster care.
White boy, athlete... In the summer after my Sophomore year in high school, I took a seemingly well paid job picking strawberries and tomatoes. I thought I would die after the first two days, but I stayed with it and learned the techniques of REAL hard work... and I lasted all of 2 weeks. The amazing Mexican women and children I worked next to have my everlasting admiration. If you haven't done it, you have no idea what it takes.
I picked plums for a single day. It was extremely boring and since I was stressed out about things in my private life, my mind kept going back to that topic over and over an over. So there I was, spending at most four hours twice in one day, feeling terrible.
That's just one thing that makes what you describe even worse.
Imma still say hard work deserves fair pay.
I worked at a mushroom farm multiple times as a cleaner. I cleaned the rooms after picking. I will say the workers make good money, if they're good at picking. But these jobs are hard as fuck! They got paid by the pound and the youngest guy I saw there probably was a kid. But you can tell that this job was their only chance at a better life. It was fucked. But I greatly admired those workers.
Most farmers actually want illegal Hispanic workers because it means they can underpay them. That farmer also knows the illegal Hispanic workers they hire can’t complain about being underpaid because they have no legal standing to complain. This type of financial abuse is very real. I personally knew people in situations like this.
I can't wait til we 'fix' these issues and food prices skyrocket
Technically, they can complain, but they understandably fear of employer retaliation, deportation or jail.
A lot of crimes would be solved if law enforcement focuses on the criminal who's actually harming the public rather than detaining the migrants who would be a huge help.
@Fisharepeopletoo "we can't end slavery, clothing prices will skyrocket!"
Like yes that's not wrong, but also if you think that's a valid reason to keep a system of exploitation and abuse you're not a good person
@Fisharepeopletoo a significant amount of countries subsidise food prices to mitigate this issue but given these expenses go right back into the pockets of those working for it, i highly doubt it would be a burden on society
If you care about this cause, I highly recommend volunteering at your local farmworkers association (especially if you speak Spanish). It was very rewarding for me. On my first day, I went to a berry farm to sign workers up for free medical and dental appointments and make sure they had transportation to get there. I witnessed the abhorrent conditions of their "housing." They were living in horse stables with bunk beds. There was no running water. There was no adequate protection from the elements. I knew then that it wouldn't be my last day volunteering.
I saw many abuses, but also so much love and humanity. The other volunteers doing their best to help. The farmworkers themselves giving everything they had to help their fellow workers. Dentists, doctors, and nurses giving their time and expertise for free. Teachers and tutors giving free English lessons with their very limited off hours. It was heartbreaking, but also amazing. Again, please consider volunteering for this very worthy cause. ❤
I backup what you say. The area I grew up in was a big pickle growing region, four local pickling plants. The migrant worker barracks was basically four walls, a door and a couple windows. No flooring, no beds, no toilets (had shed outhouses), no running water. They were fed, but they had to be because to buy food would have taken all their wages so what would have been the point of them working. And now today people yell about immigrants but that's exactly who farmers hire.
I moved back here from New England with equine management skills but there was no way I could get a living wage job because if it wasn't kids working off board it was Latinos from South America who would work for $2 an hour.
Americans have no clue how cheap their food is even in this inflation and a lot of it is due to migrant workers and immigrants. And a lot of them are here seasonally to make enough money to take home to raise their families because they can't do it where they live because their countries are so poor.
Is there a website you used?
@GAF / LS Exactly right. I grew up in TX very near the border & I can tell u with absolute certainty that every single rancher & farmer back then hired illegal immigrants & most of them probably still do. Back then we even called them “wet backs” a pretty derogatory term, although as a young girl I didn’t understand that. I loved those migrant ranch hands & they were always kind to me. I get pissed hearing some ppl talking so horribly abt about them, fearful of them; it’s ridiculous! I’d bet 90-95% of those waiting at the border just want to work hard & care for their families
@Patrick Butler You’re correct.. we can do both; volunteer to help when we can AND demand that our Govt reform/update our immigration policies. Like right now, instead of continuing to raise interest rates til they force small, med, & large businesses to lay off more workers in some fields while at the same time, the service industry can’t find workers so they are forced to keep increasing wages; why don’t they give “green cards” to asylum seekers & let them fill those empty jobs?? Dishwashers, line cooks, hotel housekeepers & lawn maintenance, waiters & waitresses, baggage handlers, as well as farm workers; all of these jobs could be filled by new immigrants & would help to slow inflation
As a Caucasian (ancestors from the Caucuses) person who worked picking cherries in central washington alongside my numerous mexican/latino friends before and throughout high school, from personal experience everything he’s said is super, SUPER accurate. From families bringing their young children to help pick faster and support themselves to watching 4 people hospitalised and one die from heat exhaustion, to people suffocating in a fruit shed at a different orchard not too far away from us, and not to mention all the kids/young adults who were sent to America by their parents at like 12-13 just to find these really tough jobs in order to provide for their family and escape even worse conditions. It’s a messed up industry with back breaking conditions, not to mention there wasn’t a single other white person working the fields I was in, so if y’all wanna say stop stealing our jobs then go out and take a job in a field, which I guarantee most white people couldn’t handle for more than a week. I will say being labelled as the resident snow/albino mexican by the other workers was pretty funny (since i quickly adopted the jeans and long sleeve shirt/sweatshirt outfit everyone else had on in the 100 degree heat), “hey, HEY you… albino lookin’ mexican! Get over here you gringo cosplayer!” Literally a sentence I heard once from a random guy my Sophomore year I didn’t know lol.
Whereabouts in the Caucasus? My co-author is from Aserbaidschan. Have we got a whopper of a story for you! 😃And say hi to beautiful Wash State for me!
@P Fitzgibbons Dagestan I believe but a lot of my family history is muddy after immigration to the US in the 50’s/60’s, since they went to Czechoslovakia first, but I think they were living in Makhachkala or the immediate surrounding area before they left.
I have cut asparagus as a child and it is brutal
In my youth, we harvested string beans, l cherries, and strawberries. It was backbreaking work and we are just doing it for fun and a little pocket money. It wasn’t fun. It is backbreaking work just doing it for a couple hours. I can’t imagine doing it just to survive. We lived in a citrus grove and whinged if we had to fill up those five-pound paint buckets. The people who came to pick the oranges had it rough. We had our nerve complaining.
This story brought tears to my eyes. My 72 year old father is still out there to this day picking lettuce. I was once one of those underage kids picking at 14 in order to have clothes for school. Seeing the legitimate anger, outrage, and heartbreak in John's eyes during this segment hit close to home. It is way too normalized amongst the Mexicans in my community that these conditions are just part of the way things are. I'm glad a light is being shed to finally correct conditions for those still out there. My family worked hard so that I wouldn't have to, and I'm grateful I was able to do better for myself.
You should try to retire your father if possible so he can stop
What is the retirement age where your father lives?
@ModusAm @aesinam trust me I've tried to get him to slow down. He was retired for like a year. He's a full citizen and has social security but he continues to work. I feel sad because I feel like for him, it's the only life he knows. He's been out there since he was 16
Right there with you babe.
@ModusAm I'm going to take a wild guess and say you are not from a place like USA
Nick Offerman always makes every skit better
I thought that might be him!
John Oliver consistently presents solutions that can at least help with the issues he reports on. Do any of them ever get taken up and implemented? I've never understood how he, Jon Stewart or even Jordan Klepper don't just end up miserably frustrated and dejected with what they see and hear.
As a Hispanic made me tear up when the little girl spoke about her experience working on the field. They are heroes
No one forced her to work
@Jumper she was a literal child. She did not consent to that work.
@Jumper except, do you know how persuasive parents can be, especially when they need the help financially and the child knows that? Have you ever knows a family that works in the fields? I knew plenty in Watsonville, CA, and all their children worked alongside their parents. Those who tried not to were cast as lazy and ungrateful and group -forced back into the life until they could figure out another way to add to the family income. All my friends had to work, the expenses of the area dictated it.
If it isn't something you know personally, or choose not to see, then choose not to comment. Unless you're just purposefully trying to rile someone up. Then maybe some self-reflection is in order.
I guess another excuse for your dad, ignorant comment is you feel guilty because you're a parent asking your child to do this work with you and you feel guilty about that. If that is the case, I'm sorry. I'm an adult now and no longer live in CA. My one friend I still occasionally talk with who felt forced to work the fields has a rocky relationship with her parents. She understands the pressures her family was under that led to that decision, but she hated almost every moment of that time of her life.
@L Batemon I bet Jumper and his/her family never suffered real hunger or thirst for any minute of their lives - that may explain this sociopathic and affluent attitude in this disgusting six word statement.
As a descendant of Mexican farmers from both side of my family (who only had 3rd 4th & 5th grade education this is a great segment. 🇲🇽
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I worked in potato farms as a teenager. Where I’m from, in Idaho, they let us out of school for two weeks to do it. Brakes were scarce, it was hot af, and I almost got my fingers stuck in the conveyer belt pushing the potatoes into the cellar a few times. At the time, cit seemed normal because everyone in school did it, but now it pisses me off. Pay was also out of wack. They kept track of your hours, but they paid you based on how much they liked you and family members earned more.
Idaho potatoes are the best.
@Ayhay This sadly is my only takeaway too
For six years, prior to my retirement after many years managing operations for public transportation systems, I hired H2B Visa workers - most from Haiti and Mexico - to fill our needs for seasonal drivers during the busy summer months on Cape Cod. Some local residents complained about "all those foreigners" driving our buses so I went to one meeting with a group of them and after hearing their complaints I handed out - - job applications. I told them that we would even provide paid training so they could get CDL licenses. Surprise! Not one person in the complaining group submitted an application. Want a bus to be on time on Cape Cod in the summer? Be thankful for these H2B Visa drivers - - or walk. The meeting ended more quietly than it had begun. Duh!
People are so ungrateful 😤
Good on you for that. Too good to hear people swallow their own slander.
Beautiful!
Good for you.
Great work hiring legal workers. If the idiots complaining didn't bother to find out they were working legally and just assumed you hired illegal workers that's a shame.
Despite political division you still need to use your brain people.
I was attending college in the early 90s in upstate New York when I heard a story about migrant farm workers that made me lose what little faith I had in people. I was a foreign student and had a job on campus as part of my work study grant. I worked with college staff from the local area. One day some of us were talking about going fruit picking at a nearby strawberry farm that had great deals on pick-your-own fruit. One of the regular staff, let's call him Joe, laughed and started telling us a story from when he was a kid in the late 1960s. Joe's best friend was from a farming family that owned a medium sized fruit farm and some dairy cows. Every year they had migrant farmers come to pick the fruit at their, and their neighbor's, farms. The workers would live in a rundown barn on a defunct farm that none of the families owned thus saving rent money. A lot of times the workers were illegal migrants. Joe was laughing as he detailed that occasionally, once every three or four years, when most of the fruit was picked, someone, read one of the farmers, would call the local police to raid the barn before the workers were paid in full. So much for the whole an honest day's work for an honest day's wages.
I answered an ad for a job laying agricultural pipe on an industrial-size farm
the deal was $1.75 per quarter mile of pipe laid
$0.75 per hour during the season and $1 per hour when the harvest was in
IF
you were still on the crew when the harvest was finished
that "IF" kinda raised fantasies of how easy it is for an employer to F*K with an employee until they finally quit
or how easy it is for employers to fire someone and just lie about why if there is a legal dispute about the firing
My guess is these 2 scenarios we'e described both happen with some frequency
that is my guess because the situations and the legals system's response mechanisms seem specifically designed
to enable it to happen
So glad you did a deep dive on this topic. It is such an oversight. It blows you away when you think about how much dissonance is created when you consider the constitution and what is allowed. Id happily pay more for every grocery to know that our people, the ones who live and work here in any capacity, are taken care of and have human rights.
I remember hearing about tomato land back in 2012. Glad you also highlighted there work.
Please support all union efforts and system change that increases the valuation of human beings who make the least annual income
I come from farm workers. Thank you for your using your platform to shine a light on us.
My parents where farm workers and I've worked picking onions. All of this is true, and the work it's self is very hard on your body.
For the record, Animal Farm isn't about fascism but about how the leaders of revolutions often use those revolutions to make themselves the elite. The main pig is called Napoleon, not Adolf or Benito
As a family member that comes from Mexican migrant parents who have worked in farming their whole life, thank you for this segment.
James Michener wrote about migrant farm workers in his book "Centennial" which was supposed to take place in Northern Colorado.
The farm owners would tell the workers they would get paid when all the crops were collected & instead of paying them, he would call immigration on them & they would be deported back to Mexico. The migrants worked in the hot sun for 2-3 months while the farm owners enjoyed free labor & profits.
You shouldn’t thank for the segment. No one should, instead they should rather thank your parents!
Just like those of us living in Europe should be thankful that we can rely on migrant workers to pick our food as well!
Hispanic, like from Spain?
@Halcón Sierreño really?
@Peter Pain Yes, that's what you call a Spanish person. You didn't know that?
I was a Deputy Sheriff in Hillsborough County Florida and I worked zones in Ruskin, Gibsonton and Plant City in 1987 -1991. I was in several migrant farm workers camps, and all of this is very true. 😢
I'm from Iowa, and my first job was at 12 for Pioneer. You really should call out the companies supplying this labor. I am now 41 years old and used to watch full Spanish families, with children as young as 7 years old, detassle corn.
It was known to our fellow school friends that our hands would usually remain greenish yellow until about Thanksgiving
My dad grew up on a WI farm and worked on various family members farms from childhood on, until he and my mother moved to Philly where I grew up. My dad has fond farm-y memories, so I had NO clue any of this was going on, this is truly awful. Thank you for exposing the reality of so many farm workers.
It's because your dad's relatives see him as a person, unfortunately a lot of farm owners do not see migrant workers as a people worthy of personhood.
Last Week Tonight thank you for covering the topics no one else will.
I've worked with hundreds of working holiday'ers in Australia for that past few decades, the horror stories I've heard everything from farm, cafe or restaurant work were utterly disgusting.
As a first generation Mexican-American whose father worked in strawberry fields, thank you so much for this piece
Respect to all farmers and farm workers. People like your father keep our country fed.
Same here. My abuelos first job was picking watermelons 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, for $20 a week. He was 7.
As a person who comes from Hispanic background, I'm just American. I've never seen anyone considered themselves Spanish European or African British.
Please tell tu familia gracias from the rest of us. What your dad did is important and it matters. I am personally very grateful.
@Sykotik Shadow i understand the sentiment, but i would allow people to self identify. Much love!
This is heartbreaking. How can we stop being complicit in all of this? What can we do? Please, please tell us something so as to not continue to contribute to this travesty!
This is John Oliver, as much as I like him, he rarely offers any solutions and just makes the end of the videos funny. I wish I knew how to help too
@Isaac Svenson push for workers rights, fight to end the embargo on Cuba, educates others and spread class consciousness.
I’m a farm worker in Washington state, working full time. I enjoy it, despite the hard work. But I’ll only make about $24k this year, and my employer has made it clear that that is all they will ever pay. The owner even complained about having to pay *that* much the first time I spoke to her (she then immediately took a 2-week vacation to Vegas in a camper larger than my childhood home.) I can’t afford to use the health insurance that I had to buy myself, can barely afford bills and groceries. So I won’t be sticking around. It’s just an incredibly unsustainable system that refuses to support the people who keep our country running, despite the fact that we need them now more than ever. And that’s my privileged experience as a white, U.S.-born citizen. I can’t imagine how these migrant workers can make a living, knowing that so many of them are paid even less than I am.
I worked as a corn detassler for Pioneer at 12 years old. Walked through cornfields for 8 hrs a day. Get soaked by the morning dew and then get scratched by the leaves once it's noon and 100 degrees out. It was the toughest work I have done and it was for minimum wage. But I did it voluntarily because I wanted money. Not everyone comes from a privileged family.
We need more legislation in farming. I hope our government listens to this segment.
a few years ago i was sitting in a park near center city Philadelphia at night. there were a few homeless people a few benches over. they seemed like they were more than anything just super down on their luck. they were talking to each other about working for some farmer under the table and how desperate you need to be to work there, because apparently if you didn't do a good job or you tried to run away from the abuse or he just felt like it, he would shoot you. probably one of the unnerving conversations I've had the displeasure of overhearing
Americans were outraged when they heard of what was happening in Qatar with workers at the stadiums but didn't even realize it was happening in their own country
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Always easier to get outraged about it when it's not directly allowing your comfort.
@Gabriel Pettier it's also easier to get outraged at something when you actually know about it. I had no idea about this until now
@Liam Wells I completely agree, but why didn't we already know about this?
I spent a summer as a landscaper in South Carolina. It was the toughest work I’ve ever done in my life. I had to quit after three months because my body was so beaten down.
As a farmer thank you so much for bringing attention to this issue 🙏
That’s my people. This is my raza. Puro padela mi gente. Los mexicanos nunca nos damos pos vencidos !!! ❤
Agreed. And who do they think is building, painting, repairing, maintaining, roofing and improving their homes, churches and government buildings? Undocumented immigrants!
bro just said farmers have rizz
@5Puff It's true. All farmers have rizz
Solidarietà dall'Italia fratello!
in 1995 i met a man who was a college counselor for a local Capitola CA highschool that served mostly migrant families. It was in a town basically owned by Martinelli's, yes the applejuice people. He was placing Latino kids in good universities and the town bosses hated this. Martinelli's told him he would lose his job and pension, 2yr from retirement, if he placed another Latino student in a good college. He was crying into his beer at Balzac's Bistro bc he didn't know what to to. I wish I knew what he chose.
Let me tell you, picking stuff like cucumber, strawberries or pumkins is the hardest. I´ve done some flowerpicking during my workin' holiday year in australia (I´m german). The scenery was stunning, butterflies flying through the fields, gorgerous mountains. I got an old school basket, it looked so romantic. The flowers were the height of my knees. After 30 minutes I couldn´t work anymore. The half bending position DESTROYED my back. I tried to kneel on my knees the best I could but I had a knee injury and couldn´t sdo it ince it was still inflamed. I rather dug dandelion roots up the whole day with a showel than picking flowers again. It was THE WORST AND PAINFUL job I had ever done. I also worked in cherrypicking 8 - 11 hours in the tasmanian sun and rain but at least I could keep my back straight and got paid extremly well. The bosses were also great. Heard plenty of horror stories of other backpackers though. I don´t know how these workes bend the whole day just thinking about it freaks me out.
I was a child farm worker. While my friends were on summer break, I was waking up at 3am to get ready for work. I hated going back to school and getting asked, "what did you do for summer break?" My dad is still out there working the fields. Super grateful my parents taught me the value of earning a dollar.
I was hesitant to watch this, but you did us justice. Thanks, John 😊
You are super grateful that you were forced to do child labor?
Thank you for sharing your first-hand account. You are a survivor and I only hope the best for you and your family!
@Alv Odin that's not at all what he said, this person didn't have an option like you do. They're proud that they learned the value of a dollar and how hard many people have to work for one.
Us too. And I agree thanks John.
I would like to ask you, what can I, as an individual, do to show my appreciation to folks like you? You work, and worked, your ass off so that I can mindlessly make a quiche, for example, and stuff it in my face with my morning coffee. Thank you for putting in all that hard work and danger over the years. This simple message, I fear, will never be enough.
I feel so badly for the children forced into these scenarios. in my early 20s I spent a couple years doing unpaid work exchanges on farms, since I grew up outside of any guidance for a stable future. On 1 I slept in a bathroom less tree house without insulation or window panes (just cut plastic roll stapled up) for months during the winter. And when I left, the farm owner refused to give me a job reference because she had wanted me to live with her after her daughter went to college and I didn't want to. This is minor compared to what many people endure. On 1 farm were guatemalan immigrants who barely spoke English and had no vehicle out in the country. They were basically stranded indentured servants, and gaslighted into being told they were valued equals, when the farm owners just wanted to exploit them. That scarred me to see. The world is rife with imbalances of power, people who have never been regarded as a valued community member, and lack of opportunities for financial independence and mobility.
The disconnect from what we eat and how it gets to us is just as bloody at the farm as it is at the meat packing plant and we deserve a reckoning for it.
Farm workers are truly the backbone of our country. They deserve better.. Nick Offerman always makes every skit better.
I worked the fields when I was young cause my dad said it would make me tougher. It did but it also has given a special appreciation for the work it takes to get food on the table
If ever, I need a good cry, I watch this show. I do get to be informed and I am reminded to be thankful for what I have. 😢
If it looks like slavery, swims like slavery, and quacks like a slavery, then it's probably slavery.
I usually hate how loose of a term slavery is sometimes like students complaining about their homework using slavery as an analogy or love songs saying lines like " I'll be a slave for you". The disrespect to what slaves actually were is crazy but your comment is actually very fitting
Same issue with the loophole that let's prisoners be slaves. Also..farming sim is the game for people way too uptight to relax and play Stardew haha
Same issue with the loophole that let's prisoners be slaves. Also..farming sim is the game for people way too uptight to relax and play Stardew haha
"That's like slavery but with extra steps"
"BuT ThEy GeT PaiD"
Most successful rebranding campaign in amerikkkan history.
So grateful you covered this. I've been teaching my 3-6th grade after-students about CIW's boycott campaign targeting Wendy's (since we don't have Publix or Kroeger in our region), and about how to effectively organize to support them.
Tucker Carlson being a Highlander is truly a nightmare scenario. That man has done enough damage in one lifetime, giving him unlimited lifetimes would be my definition of hell.
Also, important to note that major supermarket chains have now become so big that they can dictate they’re buying price to farmers, meaning farmers may not be able to afford to hire a local at a living wage, which leads to this kind of exploitation. All because giant supermarkets can’t take a bit smaller of a profit margin.
I had a roommate whose family owned an apple farm in Eastern Washington. She was so racist, I had to call a friend on a regular basis to ask exactly which group she was insulting. I always wondered how her family treated their workers if this was the child they raised.
The mother in the news report reminded me of her mother.
This hits close to home for me. I grew up as farm laborer from age 15 to 22 with my family. It was the greatest motivator to earn an education. I am now typing this from my cushy desk job as an aerospace engineer. Never forget where you come from.
Wonderful! Congratulations 🎉
Bravo.
@Chris Frostcorpse
Could be on break?
@orions shoe yep, that could be the case, indeed.
chris ahsyeud really? disgusting and childish? "I am now typing this from my cushy desk job as an aerospace engineer" this literally means what I said, unless he is on a break, so what is so childish about it, eh? His words, not mine. just cause you like the positive lame message a lot, it doesn't mean you should just blindly defend random crap
When I was in middle school, the most popular summer job was picking corn. Kids would go and do that for the summer, and although I didn't, the "knowledge" they gained and gave to me, whether watching a movie where people run through a corn field (if they did that, they would be cut and bloody after about 6rows, you cant run through corn like that) or show off scars they had, or etc. But it's the jobs they could get at that age.
The girls a lot of times would also warn each other about different farm places not to go work at because of sexual harassment... For girls under 16!
About how this farm or that farm would keep them in certain jobs cos they were "too pretty" to be doing the harder work, or to "protect" them from being out there with all those guys
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Thank you John for my weekly dose of man-made horrors beyond my comprehension
"You shalt not mistreat your hired worker".
As someome that values social justice and am a person of faith, it important to stand up for workers, not only companies. Thanks, Mr. Oliver for bringing up the rampant abuse and so forth of those workers in the ag industry that feed this nation! They deserve justice and better H2-A visa protections.
Shabbat Shalom.
I live in a place where farm work is the main employment. People take their kids with them all the time because they need the extra money kids can bring in, and still the rate of poverty is very high. If you bring child labor laws up to standard, you have to pay the adults enough that they can get by without the paychecks of their children. Those protections have to come together.
I worked on a blueberry farm from around 12-14 years old every season- that was under what I would consider the BEST possible conditions and we still had kids fainting and getting hurt from falling or pushing themselves too hard. And that was with a kind boss and lunch/water breaks.
It would be nice to have this segment translated into Spanish. I bet they would appreciate it. Thank you John!
Have chumel translate it
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Go to the gear icon (settings) - subtitles- auto generate - pick a language.
This please.
Thanks for the episode. More information on the Bracero Program and all the health inequities that exist because of it would save lives.
Ironically, Mexico is growing fast and turning into an economic powerhouse in tech and manufacturing, they highly educate their kids to solve problems and not just memorize, and tons of businesses are moving there, some say that in 15 years Mexico will catch up to the USA in many industries and the flow of workers will be in the other direction.
While the situation in agriculture is WAY better in the country I live in, I'm very thankful that you highlighted this issue in your show. Farming is dangerous and strenuous enough without adding horrible worker conditions into the mix - I personally was acquainted with more than ten farmers, that died while either working in the forest or on their farm...
Finally, somebody opened their mouth. I thought abuse of farmworkers is only in the country where I reside now. And it is everywhere. One of the greatest episodes I watched.
This show has been keeping me sane by telling me how insane the world is. Thanks haha
"And while we claim them as essential, we sure don't treat them like it" I feel like we learnt that about all essential workers during the pandemic.
Essential oils aren't called that because they are important.
It's because they are crushed down to the essence of what they are to be used by others until they are gone.
"Essential workers" are the same way.
"Essential worker" seems to be some kind of Labor Cheat Code for "doesn't deserve a break."
@Mysticshroom damm that shit was deep
If things are that bad for foreign workers coming to work in America, then why do they keep coming? Why are they not working in their own countries?
This was a powerful show. Thank you.
But I also second a previous comment - please do a show on the foster care system.
I once worked 6 hours moving chickens with large talons only to realize I’d made like a dollar an hour.
Mass respect to the poor workers
Not doubting for a second there will just be unscrupulous people out there to work for anyway, but supermarkets/retaillers relentless focus on driving down costs and not passing onto farmers/producers a proper price that allows them to provide employees better wages and conditions is a huge factor driving this. Our food systems are so fragile and as the old saying goes "you only miss the well once its dry"
When I was 14 years old in the early 70's, I had a summer job, working with farmworkers' right organization! It was a humbling and shocking experience. I learned that these farmer workers were/are nothing more than "legal slave camps"!
To the "Dey Took Our Jerbs" crowd: if you can withstand the inhumane working conditions that these immigrants have to put up with, then please, by all means get to working!
This is about ensuring better working conditions for farmworkers. Better pay and safer conditions. It's not about doing the same work.
Don't forget the many "farm workers" who have been condemned to slavery due to a felony. My first job, instead of sacking groceries at Kroger, was hoe squad, "14 Hoe" - the prison I was in had "22 Hoes" with 20 to 40 slaves assigned to each hoe. It was ALL FARM WORK. I was not privy to the contracts the State had that determined where those crops and foodstuffs would end up but it all has to go somewhere. I can never forget the sight of slaves from horizon to horizon performing "hard labor" under threat of the gun.
I hear ya. Been there, done that. 1980's; Beto1, Ramsey1, Wallace Pack3. Darrington, a couple more. Hot is hot, them fields don't care, neither do them bosses.
I think we need to convert old big box stores and dying malls into indoor indoor growing centers. A lot of the process could be automated. It might be interesting to see how this works in states that legalized cannabis first. A lot of cannabis comes from indoor grow ops.
Thank you John for all you do. The work and living conditions are just awful. We need this constant reminder in 2023 that this shit still is happening and needs to be changed.
They should make John Oliver's version of the farm simulator and use it for social experiments and testing society's morals and values. It seems like it would be pretty accurate.
Way to go interviewing Gerardo and CIW/CFA! Coalition of Imokolee Workers are such an awesome group! The Student Farm Worker Alliance started when students on US Campuses coordinated with CIW to raise public awareness about labor exploitation of the workers and publicly shame the brands by picketing their restaurants across the US. I picketed with CIW and SFA in Florida, Chicago and NYC. We made the pickets fun, making cardboard puppets and making up songs. Then the progressive churches and others joined on and it became the Community Farm Worker Alliance. I've volunteered for many human rights campaigns as an activist, and CIW/ CFA is one of my all time favorite campaigns. Love these Peeps so much.
As a young child living in a rural community, I recall hearing the farmers in the area speaking of transporting “them Mexican’s” to their farms to “pick them crops”. In later years I met some of those farmer workers children and asked them about their experiences. They expressed the abuse their parents endured. Thank you for bringing up that topic, which is ignored by labor laws and will not change as long as you have big money buying politicians.
Free guns for laborers will do it
@CTG Any day now Republicans states are going to start the "Berettas for books" campaign
(also known as "📚↗️↘️🔥 = 🔫)
@Brett_S_420 OK I mean. I'm definitely getting in on that. Fuck them but berettas are way more expensive than books
@Kuma Flamewar They make you burn the books yourself while doing the Q pledge at a Trump rally. Still interested?
I recall the fallout from the grape boycott, where the US government bought the bulk of the grape crop to prevent loss. For those who ate C-rations into the 1980's, which had been packed and stored for over 10 years, it was almost impossible to find an apple jelly module. Almost every fruit spread module was grape jam.
I love this show! 😂
It is well put together 🏆
I grew up on a farm.
I absolutely loved it, but it is definitely NOT easy😂
This is true of tree, shrub and flower farms also. In Canada, the harder working season starts in February (which is actually nice -- when you're working that hard, you don't overheat in the winter) and runs through May. Your day starts at 8:30 and ends at 4:30. When you first start, you leave work exhausted at the end of the day but, after the first couple of weeks, you've become acclimated enough that you're able to do things other than just sleep and work in the span of a day -- but I can say that I wouldn't want to try and do that job in warmer weather. As far as verbal abuse on the job, you learn that hell really is other people.
I work in the fields on early 2000's in California, it was horrible, my people deserve better.
I blame tax evaders for hiring illegals since that's what caused the homeless problem
When I was a child (8 or so), we made friends with the migrant children working in the fields. We were aghast at how hard they had to work, even the littlest of about 5. One girl told us they were lucky because they got a place to live and didn't have to sleep in their broken down truck. We went over there one day after school (these migrant kids didn't go to school), and the place they "lived"? nothing but one room tiny shacks with an outhouse for all for a bathroom and a cistern water pump outside for water. no electricity, of course. We went home and told our dad about their deplorable conditions, and my dad's response? You can't play with those children anymore. 😢🥺 No surprise that I fought a lot for worker's rights during my management career.
I'm sorry for your dad's callousness. However, you turned around and did good for others. Thank you.
@JC C I'm sorry my dad was a complete racist. He was very intelligent, and so I never understood that about him. We fought often, and one time he didn't speak to me for two months. He didn't like losing a debate.
@espy I'm envious that your father was able to recognize he lost a debate.
That is the power of meeting each other. We meet each other to little to understand each others, which makes it easy for television persona's to lie about the others to us.
This is the plot of The Boy In The Striped Pajamas. Are you telling us the plot of The Boy In The Striped Pajamas?
I admire John Oliver and his team immensely
this is straight out of a dystopian nightmare for anyone who isn't rich enough or living close to a city. Raising their wages needs to happen more and in every farm. Policing their conditions and how they're treated is absolutely vital.
This makes me want to start a farm and make it awesome to work there. Now I just need to win the lotto so I can afford to start a farm.
I laughed so hard when Alabama had to backtrack on their self deport law q decade because it backfired on them. A German Mercedes executive got arrested and a whole bunch of Latino farm workers quit. The farm owners had to beg the people to come back.
I know these days we throw the term slavery around loosely, but everything John described here is slavery core. Like this is literally slavery except we pay you a little bit and we don’t physically beat you. And to think that me and millions of Americans have no clue what goes on to get the food we buy to the store. Thanks John for enlightening us on yet another serious issue in this country.
I used to work in a used furniture store in Southeastern Ohio. One time, we got a bunch of metal chairs and tables in, like just a ridiculous amount of them. People would buy one or two chairs, a table every now and again, but eventually one guy came in and bought our whole stock. He owned an orchard nearby and said that, thanks to a new law, he "had to give them chairs now" and openly talked about how he employed illegal immigrants and paid them well below minimal wage and was allowed to for various reasons but he found them annoying cause they kept "asking for stuff". Dude was literally dressed in khaki army pants and boots and looked like General MacArthur, he had the vibe of a drill sergeant or prison guard. He scared the shit out of me and the other employees, we just tried to load his furniture in his truck as fast as possible. Nothing behind his eyes. After he left we talked about it and everyone in the store agreed we just met a functional psychopath who was participating in legal slavery. Sometimes I literally lie awake at night to this day thinking about what kind of hell it would be working under a guy like that. I would tell anybody who lives in the Southeastern Ohio area to not buy from Yeary's Orchard in Adamsville, OH, but given the bits I've seen from some other farms I doubt they're much better. It's disgusting. I'm glad John is bringing some light to this, and I encourage others to do the same. If you see people being taken advantage of, tell people. Don't be quiet about it.
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Noted, i wont buy from there!
There will be people without moral compass talking shit here soon.Please don't delete or alter your post about it.
I like to believe that I would love everyone to be treated with respect mainly if their work is something you are not willing to do, I am a Solutions Software Architect and with all my 20+ years of experience I respect all those workers that make our society work and I hope someday not far from now we give them a fair working conditions in which with that salary they can enjoy the things us Executives get to enjoy. I hate when people look down on other is so disrespectful speaks tons on their character.
Colonel Kurtz is alive and well and working on an apple farm in Ohio.
Great episode. What's less talked about is the reality of exploitation. Reality is just what I needed, we hear too much from the wrong people.
Up here in Alberta, our government passed a law that basically gave farm workers OSHA and workers comp protection, and it was received so poorly that it was immediately repealed by the next government.
John talks about issues that far too often fall under the radar. That's why he's my favorite comedian.
I use to work as a field inspector for a company that had a someone with a few buses of H2A workers do the detassling. Surprisingly the the guy who is in charge of them paid them considerably better, like at $15/hr with overtime and their housing a half a hotel. The only thing I think he was being bad at was his temper towards them. Makes me gain a little respect for the guy now that he was not like the worst.
I have this memory of hearing a story by my middle school teacher when he was a kid. I don’t remember exactly how he got to the point-in-question or who he was with, but I am quite sure he wasn’t the only child there: Basically, when he was a kid, he and his family, I believe, met a farmer who had cotton fields. The farmer asked them if they wanted to pick the cotton for them, which is exactly what they did. I may be paraphrasing this first part, however, I know for sure that while they were picking the cotton, he looked at his hands and realized they were all cut and bloody. He felt no pain. Apparently cotton has tiny razor blades on them, probably so animals or bugs don’t do any harm. The fact that the farmer even ask other people to do this is appalling enough, but children, without protective gear? It’s a glimpse into how unsafe agriculture can be.
I know my description of things is spotty at best but it was a while ago when I heard this. I promise I’m not making it up. The worst is that I could be mistaken of a couple of things…
I cried watching this. I was that kid picking cherries over 40hrs a week getting $100 cause the boss said that’s all I need. Thank you John for giving the people a glimpse of what it’s like for a lot of us.
Same except it was detasseling corn across several square miles of mosquitoes with the added benefit of razer sharp leaf edges with fiberglass-like silk hairs that'd stick in any exposed skin. Abso-fucking-lutely never again.
I'm so sorry that happened to you, I can't even wrap my head around how difficult that must have been
Exactly!!!!! Same
You didn't deserve such horrific treatment. I hope that things are better for you now. Hopefully more will be done to improve conditions for all farm workers. No one deserves to go through what you did.
To any farm workers that might see this. I DO appreciate you! Thank you. May not be worth a lot to see this comment... but I mean it.
I grew up in the suburbs of the midwest but right near farmland. This is anecdotal so take it with a grain of salt, but everyone knew a locally famous farming family because they had a reputation for hiring migrants for harvest time and then reporting them to immigration to have them deported before they paid the workers.
I'm an White American and I did this for multiple summers while I was in college. Did it with my buddy whose family owned a small farm in TX. It was hard work and not great pay. But I enjoyed it because I got to hang out with my buddy who I didn't get to see that often because we went to different colleges.
I love you and your show, and i love when you do things for the charities but i usually end up feeling unfulfilled because for 1 the big overall "system" is pretty much designed to make it so really not many people at all ever can get treated like a human let alone get ahead, which is by design im sure, and 2, i think most people who watch this feel outraged but with all the specifically placed humor and stuff (also by design, but not malicious) theyre able to not feel FULLY outraged, or at least enough to make it stick so that actual change could be made!! Iknow thats not your responsibility either and you dont have enough time or ability to make a big deal about EVERY problem you come up against either!! Im just always sad watching these!
As an orphan born in the 60s I narrowly escaped the life of an indentured farmhelp. Things are worse than you think, Olivier
My dad worked as a farm worker for about 20 years and I actually have vague memories from when I was a kid of going to the fields with him and helping trim grape vines. Field work seems like the only job where “take your child to work day” quite literally involves your child working
I worked at a small winery for years. The folks who tend the vines work year round, like your dad, and without them, there would be nothing. Thank you.
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I used to pick raspberries with my mom and the supervisor let her count our flats as ones she picked.
although that may be more true these days......I grew up going to work with my dad in upstate NY. He worked as the produce manager for Safeway. When I went at ages 9-13, he would put me to work packing grocery bags and loading them into cars. We made tips from the people. We worked hard and were happy with whatever we made each day.
Would be an interesting experience, but... there is a line drawn between kids helping work on a farm and it turning into an utter theft of their childhood.
I would just love it if the developers of Farming Simulator would really add the suggested features if they want to be closer to reality. Even half of that would be great already.
John I Love you for to letting it be known how things really go down. Thank you for telling the world the truth!!
I see a lot of folks here in the comments discussing their experiences as child laborers. If any one needs an ear or a kind word, this internet stranger is happy to listen to you. I love you all very much my friends
The horror I felt when I realized that there are people in this country that would love to play this version of the game is palatable.